We've all driven past this site on our way south, now here's a close-up look.
I'm not sure if it's called Devil's Bunker, but it seems fitting.

if you read the part of my quote, just before you trimmed, you'll notice I mention "by the way, the tens of years of empirical evidence we all have is in support of the long-standing 5 fish socal limit."

Malibu two, respectfully, how could you get to page 3 of this thread and ask such a question? It is pretty clear there is no data being used to drive these decisions. At least no public data, and that is a red flag.

That said yeah i guess the fish sniffer report is the best data we have until the DFG Decides to publish some, but first they would need to implement a way to collect it lol.  might as well focus on commercial take since that's the only measured facet rn


Also socal may have some pelagics (which by the way, norcal and central cal now have), but we have hundreds of rockfish species they dont, salmon they dont, rivers and a huge delta region with steelhead and stripers that they dont.

Well, it seems that you're setting a double standard; you feel some decisions can be made based on empirical evidence, mere observations, while others should require years of data gathering before any preventative measures are taken.

I'd bet that the five-fish limit wasn't created based on any data. It probably was an easy number to count, and it "felt" right.

Empirical evidence would indicate that the Tomales fishery is in serious decline; less and less fish being caught despite many people trying.

I saw a theory here on NCKA that the halibut were all gathered in the south bay this past summer due to the freshwater flush coming from the rivers in the north bay, so it just seemed like there were a lot of halibut, when in fact, they were possibly just concentrated in a small area. If that's the case, they would have taken a serious beating, and we'll see the impacts from that soon.

I hope I'm wrong, but why not take the cautious route, lower the bag limit, and then gather data to find out whether we can raise it again?

Here are my thoughts…

I think halibut should require a report card and tags. Limit to 1 a week with 10 tags per year.

Barbless single hook with artificial only. 

That way there will be halibut left for people who have limited fishing opportunities.

And 10 per year is plenty of meat!

 

Not sure if you're joking or not. Why artificial only? And why one per week?

Anyway, I'm all for two per day, but I think a report card would be a good idea, too. With less to fish for and more people fishing, a reduction in take seems like a good proactive measure.

Looks good! Mackerel are way under-appreciated.

New Zealand is the best! Such a great place. Be sure to spend some time on the south island. Do you dive at all? There's good diving for paua (abalone) and crayfish (spiny lobster) on the east coast of the South Island. Other places, too, but I'm most familiar with the coastline around Kaikoura and Akaroa.

Bring a fly rod or spinning rod. Lots of big trout cruising the lakes and rivers. Feel free to PM me if you want some more detailed info. I love talking NZ!
-Andrew

I had these for herring season, only used a few, and don't need them around.
Anyone interested?
-Andrew