NorCal Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing Zone => General Fishing Tips => Topic started by: sacyak on June 22, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
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I've had the opportunity to fish twice from a kayak down in Cayucos and Cambria with my brother in law.
I had a blast but am only using my spinning bass gear. My brother in law is using older Penn Jigmaster 500s.
Are there other members here who are a fan of the old Penn reels? If I was to go this route to upgrade from my spinning bass gear, are there specific models of the old Penns that are well suited for chasing the rockfish and lings from a kayak?
Is levelwind a necessary feature?
Thanks for any tips
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I've had the opportunity to fish twice from a kayak down in Cayucos and Cambria with my brother in law.
I had a blast but am only using my spinning bass gear. My brother in law is using older Penn Jigmaster 500s.
Are there other members here who are a fan of the old Penn reels? If I was to go this route to upgrade from my spinning bass gear, are there specific models of the old Penns that are well suited for chasing the rockfish and lings from a kayak?
Is levelwind a necessary feature?
Thanks for any tips
I use a pennmaster 5000 and an avet sxj and the pennmaster is super solid, I trust it well. Your thumb is a level wind. On some reels i've heard it impedes casting.
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I use old Penns that I inherited from my dad. I get them worked on when they need it - cheap by a local dude with a reel maintenance business. As long as you have a smooth drag and decent line on there you're in the game for any NorCal fish that we go after. A level wind is not needed - I agree with Eddie that your thumb is the level wind. There's something about having nothing but the spool and eyes between you and the fish.
Older Penns have scored some big fish from my yaks, and I see no reason to upgrade.
Best of luck~ :smt001
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I use a Penn Senator 1/0 as my halibut reel on a 8 ft fresh water bass rod. I really like the bait clicker as it will hold up to a 5 oz weight while drifting or slow trolling on my Outback.
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I found this little jig master in a yard sale couple months ago. It's got an aftermarket transmission on it that doubles its ratio. The transmission is called a powerhouse.
They were asking five dollars but of course I didn't pay that much.[emoji848]
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Penn 500, 501, 140, 146.
Jigmaster and squidder models.
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Penn 500, 501, 140, 146.
Jigmaster and squidder models.
+1, still have my 500 jigmaster and 501 squidder from the 70's, and still going strong. You can upgrade the drag washers and other parts from smoothdrag http://smoothdrag.com/
It is recommend upgrading from the older plastic spool to the aluminum to make it more robust. I had one of mine disintegrate right in front of me while fighting a big fish in the early days off Santa Cruz, so this would be my recommendation too. If you want the convenience of the level wind, so that you don't have to manually spool your line back and forth when retrieving, then consider something like this Penn http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Star-Drag-Penn-Defiance-20LW-LevelWind-Conventional-Saltwater-Fishing-Reel/122536479911?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D44730%26meid%3D9dbc867645064336bf8e6ee762825429%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D152437760857
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I love my Penn 85 for bottom fishing. Check out http://store.scottsbt.com/Penn-Parts-Home-Page-W7C1.aspx . Good place for parts.
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I have several models of Penn reels including the International series 1 & 2 speeds. These reel are heavy but build to last!
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I got 2 Penn jigmaster 500's I have landed 7 foot surgeon with one of them,but over the years both reels have landed their fair share of fish,I have a avet mxj that I use in the ocean because it has a 6.8:1 gear ratio which works good when your bringing fish up from 250 feet down,I also have some small shimanos and Abu Garcia bait casters I use for throwing crankbaits and drop shot they are also striper reels for throwing rattle traps.best Penn reel guy I know is Todd in benicia,if you have reel issues Todd's the man.
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I own 3 old penns. 140, 112h, and 113h. Caught 3 salmons two weeks ago with my 112h. My 140 and 112h has an upgraded drag stack and SS sleeves. 113h will get new guts and frame.
Old penns are built like a tank. Love them!
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I have a longbeach 60 and 65 that my dad gave me. I caught my first ling/saltwater fish on the 65! I would love to get my hands on a squidder or jigmaster one of these days. It's hard not to like the simplicity of an old Penn.
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Thanks everyone for your replies, it will certainly help me in my search for the Penn reels.
Can i get the contact info for the Penn reel guy in Benicia by the name of Todd ?
Thanks !
Curtis
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Thanks everyone for your replies, it will certainly help me in my search for the Penn reels.
Can i get the contact info for the Penn reel guy in Benicia by the name of Todd ?
Thanks !
Curtis
Here you go...
Todd's Custom Rod Art
513 Claverie Way
Benicia, California, CA 94510
(707) 745-1080
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~24 hours and we see all these recommendations and a solid referral for a reel guy...
NCKA rules.
:smt001
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*ahem*
www.alantani.com/
Best. Period.
~B
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I caught my avatar fish on an ancient Penn 10 I've had since I was a kid
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Heres my little collection. Not all Penns but that's ok. Got a couple Garcias in there. Need a little oil and new line but still function great. :smt006
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Penn 500, 501, 140, 146.
Jigmaster and squidder models.
Yep, especially the Squidder "Junior" 146
>The 146 Squidder was the third and final Squidder to enter the Squidder-series. In the early 60's this reel was manufactured for the first time and was manufactured until Penn discontinued it in the year 2000. In 1985 the first light-weight aluminum spool versions became available, as model 146L. <
A serious reel in my quiver.
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Morro Bay circa 1982
I Zod Out
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Penn 500, 501, 140, 146.
Jigmaster and squidder models.
Yep, especially the Squidder "Junior" 146
>The 146 Squidder was the third and final Squidder to enter the Squidder-series. In the early 60's this reel was manufactured for the first time and was manufactured until Penn discontinued it in the year 2000. In 1985 the first light-weight aluminum spool versions became available, as model 146L. <
A serious reel in my quiver.
I Zod Out
And, it was the narrow spool.
~B
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this one looks just like the thermostat I put into my 72 GMC last week!
Bushy
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BTW. I like to use the old Penns as client reels, since they can take the use and abuse. And, I am confident working on them fixing them up. Sadly I've had a few losses lately so I need more. I have a small collection for years, but want to protect some of my long-held reels for posterity.
So, if anyone has some of these gathering dust that aren't in too bad a shape, let me know, I need to re-stock. Maybe trade other gear, guided trip, or even $ though my $ mostly goes to momma.
PM me?
Bushy
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FWIW , Bushy did a bang up job refurbishing some of my Dad's old Jigmasters , along with parts donated from CptSloppywood and Squidder .
Once again Thanks .
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FWIW , Bushy did a bang up job refurbishing some of my Dad's old Jigmasters , along with parts donated from CptSloppywood and Squidder .
Once again Thanks .
Totally forgot about that! haha.
I just took a look at my shelf. I have a couple Pro Gear 251, perfect shape that I will never use, I guess. Willing to trade those....
Bushy
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Ha ..sorry no trade ..I have kids ..The next generation gets em ...LOL
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The 500s carry more line than you will ever use. Look for a narrow squidder, or my fave, the Surfmaster 100.
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FWIW , Bushy did a bang up job refurbishing some of my Dad's old Jigmasters , along with parts donated from CptSloppywood and Squidder .
Once again Thanks .
Totally forgot about that! haha.
I just took a look at my shelf. I have a couple Pro Gear 251, perfect shape that I will never use, I guess. Willing to trade those....
Bushy
Love the 251, willing to trade for cash? :smt003
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FWIW , Bushy did a bang up job refurbishing some of my Dad's old Jigmasters , along with parts donated from CptSloppywood and Squidder .
Once again Thanks .
Totally forgot about that! haha.
I just took a look at my shelf. I have a couple Pro Gear 251, perfect shape that I will never use, I guess. Willing to trade those....
Bushy
Love the 251, willing to trade for cash? :smt003
He can't, because he already promised them to me.
-Allen
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I have two......Tani-ized then never used since. One is Gold One is Black.
so I guess these guys are spoken for.
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The 500s carry more line than you will ever use. Look for a narrow squidder, or my fave, the Surfmaster 100.
I like LOVE them both, the Jigmaster has more drag washers I believe. The squidder has ball bearings vs just bushings on the 500. Squidder is preferred by casting guys...
In this case, I am looking fro client reels. Tough, reliable, and as i trim used line off the end I don't have to re-spool as often. Both 500's I have rigged for tomorrow's clients are about 1/3 full. Still plenty of line for RF, lings, haibut. If they hook a white seabss, I'd advise dogging the drag all the way down and keeping their feet out of the water.
Eric you would love this one 146 I have with an Accurate frame. Santa barbara Special I got for a Shimano Compre trade ten years ago (anothre story altogether. it's reels like that one I will not use for clients. I've had too many go overboard. And I think pool noodles on the rod is gay. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Bushy
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I have two......Tani-ized then never used since. One is Gold One is Black.
so I guess these guys are spoken for.
I don't suppose either has a clicker?
I have a gunmetal one with a clicker, which reminds me, I need to tune up that bad boy before our long range trip.
-Allen
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*ahem*
www.alantani.com/
Best. Period.
+1 Numero Uno
~B
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I have two......Tani-ized then never used since. One is Gold One is Black.
so I guess these guys are spoken for.
I don't suppose either has a clicker?
I have a gunmetal one with a clicker, which reminds me, I need to tune up that bad boy before our long range trip.
-Allen
No clicker, but I'm willing to stand next to you and make the noise, with my hand on your shoulder. "Have you ever had another man make the clicker noise for you?"
Bouché
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I have two......Tani-ized then never used since. One is Gold One is Black.
so I guess these guys are spoken for.
I don't suppose either has a clicker?
I have a gunmetal one with a clicker, which reminds me, I need to tune up that bad boy before our long range trip.
-Allen
No clicker, totally useless....you should hold out for a 545 albie special....has a clicker :smt003
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Thanks everyone for your input and advice.
I just picked up a Penn 501 that is in great shape !!
Now on to research a good rod to mate this to .....
Curtis
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I have two......Tani-ized then never used since. One is Gold One is Black.
so I guess these guys are spoken for.
I don't suppose either has a clicker?
I have a gunmetal one with a clicker, which reminds me, I need to tune up that bad boy before our long range trip.
-Allen
No clicker, but I'm willing to stand next to you and make the noise, with my hand on your shoulder. "Have you ever had another man make the clicker noise for you?"
Bouché
Click bait, don't do it. Loaded with viruses and malware
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BTW. I like to use the old Penns as client reels, since they can take the use and abuse. And, I am confident working on them fixing them up. Sadly I've had a few losses lately so I need more. I have a small collection for years, but want to protect some of my long-held reels for posterity.
So, if anyone has some of these gathering dust that aren't in too bad a shape, let me know, I need to re-stock. Maybe trade other gear, guided trip, or even $ though my $ mostly goes to momma.
PM me?
Bushy
I think I have a couple old reels around here, I'll take a look and PM you.
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I have two......Tani-ized then never used since. One is Gold One is Black.
so I guess these guys are spoken for.
I don't suppose either has a clicker?
I have a gunmetal one with a clicker, which reminds me, I need to tune up that bad boy before our long range trip.
-Allen
No clicker, but I'm willing to stand next to you and make the noise, with my hand on your shoulder. "Have you ever had another man make the clicker noise for you?"
Bouché
Click bait, don't do it. Loaded with viruses and malware
haha.....Bushy: Click Bait, or Eye Candy?
hahahahaha
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Scored on this narrowed Jigmaster with a green accuframe way back on CL for $30
I replaced the handle with a power handle from Alan Tani
Matched it with my 270 Seeker
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This post has me motivated into possibly rebuilding this older penn 113 h. Handle has some play and I'm sure drag needs to be replaced
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Hightide, LOVE IT! I'll take pix of my accurate 146 and Tiburon 500 and post tomorrow.
Bulldog, let me know ifyou want help. We could rebuild it in my garage. I am fairly confident with those reels.
Bushy
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Hightide, LOVE IT! I'll take pix of my accurate 146 and Tiburon 500 and post tomorrow.
Bulldog, let me know ifyou want help. We could rebuild it in my garage. I am fairly confident with those reels.
Bushy
Sweet!
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Bulldog, let me know ifyou want help. We could rebuild it in my garage. I am fairly confident with those reels.
Bushy
Thanks Bush Master. :smt001 I will definitely take you up on that . Maybe we can get some fishing in before the rebuild ? Drop you a line to see when you got time.
Gonna try and hit high tide today locally for some "cute" perch as FM1 describes them. :smt005
Alex
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I started fishing salt water with Penns and have modded squidders up to the 80 international they are pretty durable and affordable (for the smaller reels). The down side for me is mainly the weight and the spool/frame clearance making it tricky to use spectra. It was cool to being able to hot rod old reels with aluminum frames,different gear ratios and handle set ups.
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I started fishing salt water with Penns and have modded squidders up to the 80 international they are pretty durable and affordable (for the smaller reels). The down side for me is mainly the weight and the spool/frame clearance making it tricky to use spectra. It was cool to being able to hot rod old reels with aluminum frames,different gear ratios and handle set ups.
haha
that's why they have the side plate release screw knob......So you can take your reel apart while you're fighting a 20-pound halibut and clear the line from the plate.It's been done! that reel only gets mono now.
Bushy
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:smt002
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Thanks everyone for your input and advice.
I just picked up a Penn 501 that is in great shape !!
Now on to research a good rod to mate this to .....
Curtis
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get it for? I'm looking for a 501 as well.
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Fish67 -
Found it on Craigslist for $40.00. Seemed like a fair price and a good reel for kayak/rockfish/ling.
Can't wait to try it on my next outing
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Fish67 -
Found it on Craigslist for $40.00. Seemed like a fair price and a good reel for kayak/rockfish/ling.
Can't wait to try it on my next outing
Nice! Thanks!
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Uh-0h!
I am currently working on my vintage Penn Squidder 140. Today I was putting it back together and Zinnnng... the tiny spring for the anti reverse popped out and is hopelessly LOST :smt013
Where can I get another (1/2 dozen)?
I Zod Out
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The best resource for Penn Parts that I have found. Quick delivery, too.
www.scottsbt.com
Anyone who takes reels apart should check out alantani.com He has meticulous tutorials on multiple reels. He is the master. A number of his tutorials are posted on NCKA, he is a long-time member.
Bushy
Uh-0h!
I am currently working on my vintage Penn Squidder 140. Today I was putting it back together and Zinnnng... the tiny spring for the anti reverse popped out and is hopelessly LOST :smt013
Where can I get another (1/2 dozen)?
I Zod Out
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my collection of reels
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more
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+1 pennparts.com and alantani site. There are some crazy talented guys and gals on there. Just a warning, it gets pretty addicting tricking out these old penns.
Very nice jigstrike!
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Haha WTG Jigstrike!!
I'm going to take a picture of the cardboard box n my garage with the jumble in it. Ha!
Bushy
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I have some 501s and squidders. Some with Tiburon frames. I would swap maybe.
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Also some period jigs. The Post cards are from boats at one time or another I worked on
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If anyone has this kind of stuff. I collect it. The one marked Hetzel with the prop on it I would give 400.00 or more. Hope you have that kind of jumble.
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Zane Grey Teaser owned by Zane Grey the writer.
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Will buy this kind of jumble also. If boxed and clean like this 300.00 +. Hey Bushy if you need a talk on show about this stuff let me know. Been doing it 30 years. Enjoy folks
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Mr. JigStike,
Just sent you a pm
If any others are interested in vintage jigs-here they are.
4est
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So cool
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You still need reels Bushy?
I have at least one 500, and possibly 2, that you can have. I think you gave me at least one of them, and I never used it, so seems only right to go back.
Also have a couple of 209's that may be good newbie reels as they be levelwind.
And last but not least, I have a Senator 3/0. It's more or less a 500 class reel, with bearings I think Probably has a lot of common parts.
Lemme know!
-Allen
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I have two Penns, ...old and new. I prefer using the older one now that I change the handle. It used to have tiny crank handle
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was that the 500S?
Sure, I'll take em. 209's are really good client reels with the level-wind. thanks.
bring them tomorrow? See you!
Bushy
You still need reels Bushy?
I have at least one 500, and possibly 2, that you can have. I think you gave me at least one of them, and I never used it, so seems only right to go back.
Also have a couple of 209's that may be good newbie reels as they be levelwind.
And last but not least, I have a Senator 3/0. It's more or less a 500 class reel, with bearings I think Probably has a lot of common parts.
Lemme know!
-Allen
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The old tuna sticks. I need to tune these up and get them wet.
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You still need reels Bushy?
I have at least one 500, and possibly 2, that you can have. I think you gave me at least one of them, and I never used it, so seems only right to go back.
Also have a couple of 209's that may be good newbie reels as they be levelwind.
And last but not least, I have a Senator 3/0. It's more or less a 500 class reel, with bearings I think Probably has a lot of common parts.
Lemme know!
-Allen
Are you selling the 3/0?
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You still need reels Bushy?
I have at least one 500, and possibly 2, that you can have. I think you gave me at least one of them, and I never used it, so seems only right to go back.
Also have a couple of 209's that may be good newbie reels as they be levelwind.
And last but not least, I have a Senator 3/0. It's more or less a 500 class reel, with bearings I think Probably has a lot of common parts.
Lemme know!
-Allen
Are you selling the 3/0?
If Bushy doesn't want it, I might ...
-Allen
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Dig up some salmon stuff that I havent used in years. Found my Penn 65 dusty and rusty! Rinse and lube works like new again :smt044 love mine glad I found it.