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General => Fish Talk => Fish ID sub-forum => Topic started by: SandBag on February 05, 2012, 11:52:10 AM

Title: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: SandBag on February 05, 2012, 11:52:10 AM
Caught this little guy among a bunch of small trout in a ripple onthe lower AR. The trout I could clearly identify as trout but this one stumped me. Released it and did some research, it appears to be a juvi salmon, but it's hard to be positive without the fish still being in my hand.
Anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: borntofish on February 05, 2012, 11:58:29 AM
I'd say juvenile steelie..  Dont think the king fingerlings and juveniles stay in the river to that size...  Adipose fin looks intact......... wild one
Title: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: SandBag on February 05, 2012, 12:11:01 PM
I was thinking the same thing about salmon leaving at a smaller size.

Nice so see some naturally spawned juvies in the home river. A few of the trout looked to be natives as well but all small.
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: bmb on February 06, 2012, 10:57:32 AM
rainbow. doesn't count as a steelie until its 16" long.

but its a juvenile.
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: beenfishin on February 06, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
Looks like a rainbow to me.  For comparison sakes here's a juvy salmon from the Trinity a few months ago:
Title: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: SandBag on February 06, 2012, 11:15:20 AM
Haha ya LEGALLY a bow give it a year or so.

That pic does shine some light on th situation.
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: Uminchu Naoaki on February 26, 2012, 01:23:26 PM
I think it's a rainbow trout also (parrmark style, rounder head, & less folk on tail).

(http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35847.0;attach=111553;image)
(http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=35847.0;attach=111573;image)
That pic does shine some light on th situation.
:smt045

Just check the gums next time.  :smt002
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: borntofish on March 02, 2012, 06:21:27 PM
if anyone is interested the AR is covered in salmon fry... the shallows are loaded down to Rossmoor...  i have been using a one inch smolt fly with an egg sack just below the head...... used it in mostly faster water on a nymph rig.  6 fish to the shore.. largest landed was 16" but we had some nice fish in the air.

Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: mooch on March 02, 2012, 08:42:54 PM
caught and released these at Stevens Creek...

Steelhead or rainbows??????
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: Uminchu Naoaki on March 03, 2012, 04:39:44 AM
caught and released these at Stevens Creek...

Steelhead or rainbows??????
Oncorhynchus mykiss...
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: DaveW on March 03, 2012, 07:26:44 PM
Mooch, Uminchu is telling you that rainbows and steelhead are the same species.  When they look like your picture, they're  in their stream coloration.  When they smolt and go to sea, or think they're going to sea, they turn chrome (a much better camouflage for ocean life).  Many Oncorhynchus mykiss don't go to sea at all, and we call them rainbows.  Many rainbows can have coastal steelhead as parents......or the other way around......or even rainbows can (and do) spawn with big, old steelhead.

Steelhead live in a crazy world.
Title: Re: Juvenile king salmon?
Post by: The Impractical Fishemen on March 24, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
I love the parr markings on the small Rainbows. Very cool catch.