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Kayak Fishing Zone => Kayak Fly Fishing => Topic started by: Wildrooster on May 02, 2017, 10:50:26 PM

Title: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Wildrooster on May 02, 2017, 10:50:26 PM
I want to try fly fishing for stripers I have an old rod and reel that should work for that and suggestions on flys types or techniques etc if theredown low vs top water etc etc
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: MolonLabe916 on May 03, 2017, 04:05:41 PM
What type of water are you looking to fish in? Surf? River? Delta?
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Wildrooster on May 03, 2017, 06:59:20 PM
lakes and delta
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: fishkraft on May 03, 2017, 08:37:41 PM
Call Bill Beckett at Headwaters Fly Shop. Or PM BioBill here on NCKA. He'll get you right.


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Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: ScottV on May 05, 2017, 10:06:38 AM
7 or 8 weight rod with t14 and clousers is the standard outfit I use for stripers on the delta and lakes.

Get a descent reel with descent drag.  20 pound line for your leader.  I run a straight leader, no butt section or tippet.
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: TamFish on May 05, 2017, 10:20:27 AM
Clousers and Decievers or similar baitfish pattern. If you only have floating line spooled up, you may want to get some sinking leaders, the higher the sink rate the better, measured in IPS (Inch Per Second)

I fish an 8 wt for stripers, but a 7 wt would work. The weight of the rod isn't as much a limitation for the size of the fish, but rather a limiting factor on the size of the fly you'll be able to practically cast. I will say the sinking leaders don't make it easier, but you'll get used to it with practice.

Josh
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: AlexB on May 05, 2017, 10:53:16 AM
One of my old bosses was a striper fly fishing guru and part owner of Fish First fly shop in Albany. He would primarily use clousers rigged up with shooting heads.


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Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: LinesideBountyHunter on May 05, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
I use a 9wt with a sinking line that sinks about 3in per second. I fish the Napa river and almost always throw chartreuse and white clouser minnow flies. I like to fish this in shallow water or when the fish are close to the surface. Fast and erratic stripping with occasional pauses works well in most situations.
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: poulton on May 06, 2017, 07:52:20 AM
Lost Coast Outfitters (fly fishing store) in SF is having a talk about striper fishing Tuesday May 16 at noon
I am taking Bart into city, due to parking. get of at Montgomery and walk up to clay
Cheers
Paul O
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: peterjmaes on May 06, 2017, 10:26:29 AM
I use an 8 weight with a type 3 shooting head.  Agreed with tamfish that the size is more important simply because of the casting.  My key is to keep moving.  If you're not hooking up after 5 minutes or so in the same spot, try a different one.  And note the tides.  Good luck. 

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Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Wildrooster on May 08, 2017, 12:35:09 PM
Here's my intended rig yes it's rigged with floating line
It's old but for starting out with stripper I think it should be fine still gotta get to Stockton or Modesto for the flyies
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Wildrooster on May 11, 2017, 07:15:49 PM
Stoped by bps and picked up these hope something likes them on
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Wildrooster on May 13, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
How much does tip shape and weight affect casting ?
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Paddletherapy on May 13, 2017, 11:07:11 AM
Flyfishing delta stripers is incredible. Shooting heads are very popular but I have never mastered casting them from the seat of my kayak. My preference is a weight forward intermediate tipped line. Such as rio's streamer tip 'my favorite'. 7wt vs 9wt depending on wind. Making a good presentation is difficult when it's blowing more than 10 mph. Here's a peak at my favorite things to throw in the delta water
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: MolonLabe916 on May 16, 2017, 10:18:18 AM
Shooting heads are very popular but I have never mastered casting them from the seat of my kayak.

Spey rod with a skagit line can solve that. Single spey casts are easy in the seat.


Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Wildrooster on May 16, 2017, 09:36:01 PM
I'm going nuts lakes five minutes away but the wind has been off the charts
I really want to play with my toys
I learned a little about my reel aperantly there's no brake on this old roybi dose that really matter ?
I really have no experience with fly poles reels
But I added six feet of sinking leader behind the tippit/line
Rated at 6' per hope that's about right
Title: Re: Fly fishing for stripers help and hints
Post by: Tinker on May 17, 2017, 08:49:19 AM
I'm not sure I understand how you rigged the sinking line.  I rig a monofilament leader to a sinking tip to the fly line, and that's the order you should use.  You're better off using plain old monofilament - Maxima Chameleon is my choice - as a leader than using a store-bought tapered leader plus a tippet.

You asked about how a sink tip affects casting.  It changes everything.  Practice without a hook, first, if you value your ears.   :smt003

While you don't need the Very Best Stuff, and you don't absolutely need a fly reel with a drag system, but you're going to have your hands full if you hook anything much bigger than a trout.  If you hook a big, energetic fish, like a striper, you'll be playing it with just the palm of your hand against the reel, and that can lead to heartbreak.

I don't know if that fly rod is slow - soft and wiggly for most of it's length - or fast - stiff with only the top flexing.  don't know how long the rod is, either.  Hard to tell you if you're in the ballpark with your line/sink tip/leader without knowing more about the rod.