Siwash trolling hooks for salmon

My octos are 4/0 so I wanted something a little bigger in front. Thanks for the tip though.

Cool, thanks. I just tied this up...looks pretty similar. I added a little piece of a plastic sleeve to keep the snell in place. One green bead. Any suggested improvements before I try it out later this week?

That looks like it should work great, but I'm not exactly sure what the plastic sleeve is for. Did you tie a sliding snell? Both my hooks are "hard tied" using an egg loop style snell (don't need the egg loop...just the way I learned to do it).


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The way I tie them is I put the main line back through the eye (after all the wrapping), but the line can unravel if I push it backwards. This isn't usually an issue though as the weight of the hook alone prevents that. Is there a lock or something I should use?

Anyway, not really a problem, and the sleeve isn't even all that necessary.

If you're tying a snell correctly, it'll lock down really tight. There should be no way you can loosen it without a sharp blade. It might hold OK, but I'd be worried...

This video shows the same way I tie mine (they call it a hoochie rig, but it's just two hooks snelled inline):




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If you're tying a snell correctly, it'll lock down really tight. There should be no way you can loosen it without a sharp blade. It might hold OK, but I'd be worried...

This video shows the same way I tie mine (they call it a hoochie rig, but it's just two hooks snelled inline):




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yeah I do my front hook similarly.  I tie the back hook with a traditional snell knot, but the front one i do the "cheater" snell as you don't need to do the loop all the way down, which can be a PITA.  But I generally do that only with kokanee gear as kokanee won't break the line and the line is a lot more limp than 25 or 30lb fluoro.

I simply haven't fished enough for ocean kings this year due to lack of time and other family commitments.  only been out 2 times for real and two after work trips. 

Thanks guys. I followed the video and now have some kick ass two-hook Apexes ready to go...

Ah... fluoro.... yeah, that stuff can be really stiff.

Salmon aren't line shy when it comes to trolling, so (IMHO) fluoro is expensive overkill. I use 25 pound P-line CXX for my main line and 30 pound P-Line CXX for my leaders. Some commercial trollers use MUCH heavier line and still get bit just fine.


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Thanks guys. I followed the video and now have some kick ass two-hook Apexes ready to go...

Nice! Glad to help.


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Ah... fluoro.... yeah, that stuff can be really stiff.

Salmon aren't line shy when it comes to trolling, so (IMHO) fluoro is expensive overkill. I use 25 pound P-line CXX for my main line and 30 pound P-Line CXX for my leaders. Some commercial trollers use MUCH heavier line and still get bit just fine.


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Agreed nothing wrong with heavy line for salmon trolling. I fish 40# big game or izorline and hook up just fine. It also helps limit line twist problems to have a heavier leader.

Mooching is a different story but not many mooch anymore.

-Eliot

Ah... fluoro.... yeah, that stuff can be really stiff.

Salmon aren't line shy when it comes to trolling, so (IMHO) fluoro is expensive overkill. I use 25 pound P-line CXX for my main line and 30 pound P-Line CXX for my leaders. Some commercial trollers use MUCH heavier line and still get bit just fine.


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I don't use the true floro, just the cheap P line fluoro coated stuff.  I like it better for abrasion resistance, although the stiffness can be a bit annoying.

Ah... fluoro.... yeah, that stuff can be really stiff.

Salmon aren't line shy when it comes to trolling, so (IMHO) fluoro is expensive overkill. I use 25 pound P-line CXX for my main line and 30 pound P-Line CXX for my leaders. Some commercial trollers use MUCH heavier line and still get bit just fine.


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I don't use the true floro, just the cheap P line fluoro coated stuff.  I like it better for abrasion resistance, although the stiffness can be a bit annoying.

Ah, gotcha.

For what it's worth, I've never lost a salmon to line breakage using the 30 pound P-line. (Or any other line for that matter). Keeping your drag set properly is the key.


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I started using new Owner no escape barbless hook https://www.ownerhooks.com/product/barbless-no-escape/  for salmon & sturgeon, so far so good for salmon but haven't hooked sturgeon yet...
I really like Owner hooks & totally sold on packaging[emoji7]


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I started using new Owner no escape barbless hook https://www.ownerhooks.com/product/barbless-no-escape/  for salmon & sturgeon, so far so good for salmon but haven't hooked sturgeon yet...
I really like Owner hooks & totally sold on packaging[emoji7]


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I like the shape of that hook. Just wish they made it in stainless! I'm tired of throwing away rusty gear.


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I started using new Owner no escape barbless hook https://www.ownerhooks.com/product/barbless-no-escape/  for salmon & sturgeon, so far so good for salmon but haven't hooked sturgeon yet...
I really like Owner hooks & totally sold on packaging[emoji7]


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I like the shape of that hook. Just wish they made it in stainless! I'm tired of throwing away rusty gear.


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Only started using them this year & don't know what they're made of but haven't rusted or dulled yet...


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I started using new Owner no escape barbless hook https://www.ownerhooks.com/product/barbless-no-escape/  for salmon & sturgeon, so far so good for salmon but haven't hooked sturgeon yet...
I really like Owner hooks & totally sold on packaging[emoji7]


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I like the shape of that hook. Just wish they made it in stainless! I'm tired of throwing away rusty gear.


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Only started using them this year & don't know what they're made of but haven't rusted or dulled yet...


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those look great and owners are pretty bomb proof.  looks similar to a sickle style hook.