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Kayak Fishing Zone => Kayak Fly Fishing => Topic started by: TFM on August 01, 2016, 11:43:19 AM

Title: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: TFM on August 01, 2016, 11:43:19 AM
Good morning!

Let me first start by saying I have never fly fished before and would like to try it from my kayak. I'm looking to purchase a good entry level setup something that would help me learn the technique of fly fishing any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I haven't started doing any concrete research yet, I wanted to reach out to the community first and see if anybody has some helpful guidance on where to start.

PS: I would like to start by targeting rainbow trout with dry flies *ive read that much :)*

Thanks again!

Ted


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Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: AlexB on August 01, 2016, 12:19:38 PM
I'm no fly fishing expert, but I consulted several before I bought my "beginner" setup. I highly recommend you check out Temple Fork Outfitters rods.

Can't comment much on reel selection, other than to say I don't think it matters much unless you're targeting big, drag-pulling fish.


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Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: TFM on August 01, 2016, 12:31:03 PM
Thanks Alex for the help, no large fish just rainbow trout for now.


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Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: AlexB on August 01, 2016, 12:38:35 PM
No prob! I'm sure you'll get some responses from (actual) fly fishing experts...


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Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Str8FishiN on August 01, 2016, 12:44:20 PM
Looking forward to your fly yakfishing reports, Teddy! 
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Tote on August 01, 2016, 02:18:45 PM
Buy this book.
The Curtis Creek Manifesto.
IMO, the BEST entry level book on the subject ever written.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Curtis-Creek-Manifesto-Guide-to-Fly-Fishing-Cartoon-Book-B203-/172282156944?hash=item281cd11790:g:z8QAAOSwRgJXk~Q8

It is straight to the point, funny, and spot on.
You will not be disappointed!
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: TFM on August 01, 2016, 02:25:33 PM
Right on thanks Jason! I think this is going to open a whole new door for the sport for me.

Thanks Tote just ordered it, I quickly checked iBooks for a digital copy but nada...


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Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: MontanaN8V on August 01, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
Definitely learn to cast on land first, take the bell out of the curve doing that. Several cities have fly shops, and most offer clinics in the basics. I would recommend that. Not much to it, but what there is to it, takes practice.
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Tote on August 01, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
If you can make it to Placerville I'll show ya how. I used to teach it.
Built my own rods, tied my own flies, and I have room out back to practice.
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: TFM on August 01, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
I may have to take you up on that great offer Tote I will gladly bring beer/wine of your choice!


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Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: MontanaN8V on August 01, 2016, 08:07:35 PM
I would most definately take Tote up on that offer. For many reasons. Lets list them guys!  :smt006

1. He is a patient teacher
2. His place is a mini-vacation in itself!
3. Hospitality is second to none.
4. Your guy card goes platinum just walking into the backyard.
5. With any luck, you will catch him pissing off his neighbor.
6. You will learn the value of velcro and straps.
7. You will never feel like you had a bad hair day again, ever.
8. Becky ROCKS!
9. NO  man can say his life is complete until having a cold beverage of substantial quality, at his tiki bar.
10. He knows his shit.
(Im guessing 85 tops, unless Bird chimes in lol )
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Bird on August 01, 2016, 09:20:46 PM
Huh Rich????
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: MontanaN8V on August 02, 2016, 08:26:00 AM
Huh Rich????

I know you have tons of great things to say about Tote!!  :smt008
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Bird on August 02, 2016, 02:50:12 PM
Hey Malifunction - good luck with the fly-fishing. Take Tote up on his offer - he knows his stuff and is a great teacher.


Huh Rich????

I know you have tons of great things to say about Tote!!  :smt008

Huh?  Please don't drag me, for no reason, into this bullshit nonsense Rich - thanks!
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: MontanaN8V on August 02, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
I didnt mean anything by it. Fuck me. I wont include you. Peace dude  :smt006
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: ScottV on August 05, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
Check your PM
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Cmcculloch on May 14, 2017, 08:09:34 PM
I have just started with this group and wanted to add to this thread for new fly fishers.

Another good and inexpensive way to learn about fly fishing is with a fly fishing club. I belong to CFFU - California Fly Fishers Unlimited in Sacramento. We have monthly meetings with a presentation and at least one outing per month. Classes are taught for beginners, fly tying, fishing knots and similar topics. Meetings are on the first Tuesday of the month at the Conzelman Hall at Howe Ave Park. Entrance to the park is on Cottage Way near Howe Ave. (near Home Depot). Fly casting lessons on the lawn start at 6 pm and the meeting starts at 7 pm. Come check us out as a guest. To join dues are $40 single, or $55 for family.

The web site is www.cffu.org for more info. Other clubs are in Granite Bay, Davis, Stockton etc.

Craig
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: TamFish on May 15, 2017, 09:44:47 AM
Hi Malfunction,

You seem to have gotten the itch, that's great. I started fly fishing a few years ago (in the bay area and Sierras) and spend most of my time now in the pursuit.

Looks like you've got some good resources here. I'll add a couple thoughts/learnings from when I got started. You don't have to jump into the high end rods at first, but don't got too cheap either. IMO, there's a bigger difference between a really cheap rod and a mid-tier rod, than the mid-tier to high end. I learned on an older Redington 5wt and I think it's a great entry rod. TFO also makes nice rods. My point, you should be able to find a rod/reel combo with line for around $200, that you'll actually enjoy using for more than just the learning phase.

I'd recommend a 9' 5wt - good all around fly rod for the Truckee, Little T, Lower Yuba, Putah, etc...you'll also be able to throw streamers with it, but learn to cast dries first. Once you get set up, go to your local park and just practice swinging the rod. I like to put a tiny piece of yarn on the end of a leader/tippet, so you can see how your cast plays out. My biggest issue when I first started, was not letting the line load in the backcast. Crucial and probably a common issue.

In terms of dry fly fishing for Bows, that's an awesome goal, but most of your results will come from nymphing. In between trips to the rivers, I'd throw Adams dry fly's at my local ponds and hook up on blue gill. Great practice and fun.

Lastly, I'll leave you with this thought. If you can find a course take. You should also go out with a guide on your first river trip. Worth it for many reasons - They will help you with your casting technique, they will teach you to fish that particular river, which you'll be able to come back to on your own and they should be putting you on the fish. You'll also get to try a few higher end rods in the process.

Hope this helps, PM me if you have further questions.

Josh

p.s. get REAL good and efficient at tying knots. Time wasted on knots, is time not fishing.
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: Tinker on May 15, 2017, 04:04:52 PM
Go see Tote.  I don't know him, but any time someone with teaching experience offers to spend a day with you, run there as fast as you can.

Don't buy a rod until you've talked with those folks with experience.  There's more to the first rod than price alone.  You can get the right rod for a lot less than $200 and you can get the wrong rod for a lot more.

Find a fly shop you can trust.  The Fly Shop in Redding is pretty darned good.

And finally, don't do it!  Walk away while you're still sane and not hung on your next fly fishing fix.  There's still time...
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: TFM on May 15, 2017, 04:42:24 PM
Haha thanks everybody, this was an old post I made back on August of 2016 and since then I have been to classes and even caught fish fly fishing. I definitely appreciate all the feedback though
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: ScottV on May 18, 2017, 08:32:17 AM
Take that fly rod and go after some shad!  Shad are a blast on the fly.
Title: Re: Seeking advice from expert fly fisherman/woman
Post by: surf12foot on May 18, 2017, 06:53:41 PM
Yes, shad and fly rods are made for each other!!!!