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Title: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Jigasaurus on April 10, 2018, 08:00:27 AM
Checking the weather for sonoma coast this weekend and it's calling for 8' swell @13 sec. Wind forecast is less than 5kts before noon. I launch in a protected cove so getting in and out is no big deal. What's your thought on padding in these conditions?  I'm not an expert but I've been kayaking the ocean for the past 6 years. Last time Iwas out in 6 foot swells with no wind and it was very manageable.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Fish Master1 on April 10, 2018, 08:06:59 AM
Doesn't sound to big to me, but know your limits! :smt006
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: ThreemoneyJ on April 10, 2018, 08:21:58 AM
It all depends on the person. Bring a perch rod along and fish from shore if you don’t like how it looks. For me that sounds like conditions for getting sick so I won’t be there.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: NowhereMan on April 10, 2018, 08:33:03 AM
It's like a slow motion roller coaster ride. If that doesn't bother you, then no problem. But, a big swell can make the rockfish tight-lipped...
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Vermillion on April 10, 2018, 08:48:11 AM
It all depends on exactly where you are. 13 sec, is a lot of water, so if it has to come up a steep shelf then its ugly, if you are in the flats fishing intermittent structure then its just a bit rollie. Makes jigging easy though. Its all about your comfort level. Always take all of your safety gear, plan for submersion and plan your fish and fish your plan. Communicate your intentions with someone who isnt afraid of calling the Coast Guard
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Tinker on April 10, 2018, 09:53:28 AM
What's the secondary swell?  Is there a tertiary swell?  What direction are they coming from?

There's a huge difference between a single swell or primary + second/third swells coming from the same direction and swells coming from all over the compass.

All from one direction, it's a roller coaster.  Different directions and it's lumpy and bumpy and ideal conditions to lose your cookies.

The direction of the wind changes the shape of the swell. too.  Opposing it and you get a steep face.  A backing wind will smooth the swells.

There's a lot more to a Go/No Go decision than how big the primary swell may be.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: E Kayaker on April 10, 2018, 10:03:13 AM
The forecast I'm reading shows the swell coming from the west. I'm not sure how well protected the launch will be. A 7-8 ft swell on the beach could be difficult. I'd like to fish the opener too. I'm hesitating because of the forecast.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Jigasaurus on April 10, 2018, 11:48:57 AM
No secondary swell. Just a groundswell. Wind is supposed to be same direction as the swell. Im so anxious to catch some fish but i think im gonna sit this weekend out. I think your right about the big swell turning off the bite. Most times I go out in a big swell and don't catch fish I regret it. Good luck to any of guys that do go out. Hopefully the forecast is wrong.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Bushy on April 10, 2018, 12:28:48 PM
Fish the Bay!!
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: NowhereMan on April 10, 2018, 03:53:17 PM
... plan your fish and fish your plan...

Quote of the day!
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Twid on April 10, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
Fish the Bay!!
Second that.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: yakyakyak on April 10, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
It's like a slow motion roller coaster ride. If that doesn't bother you, then no problem. But, a big swell can make the rockfish tight-lipped...

This.  Sit on the floor, imagine a not so slow roller coaster ride, and you see hump coming up (X feet high; this may include losing sight of the coast) and your yak is wobbly .....   if you can handle that, then all you have to worry about is wind (so you can go back to shore).
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: E Kayaker on April 10, 2018, 05:42:22 PM
It's like a slow motion roller coaster ride. If that doesn't bother you, then no problem. But, a big swell can make the rockfish tight-lipped...

This.  Sit on the floor, imagine a not so slow roller coaster ride, and you see hump coming up (X feet high; this may include losing sight of the coast) and your yak is wobbly .....   if you can handle that, then all you have to worry about is wind (so you can go back to shore).

Wind and potential 8ft swells on the beach.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Azkikr on April 10, 2018, 07:25:07 PM
Fish the Bay!!
Second that.
Same here. Was planning for rocks, but will go to bay instead
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Tote on April 10, 2018, 08:19:18 PM
Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener.
It's just another day.
I'd rather fish a better day a week later than a shitty day on the opener.
Will the fishing be worse a week later with better conditions? ...no.
Will it be better fishing...more than likely.
Pick your battles.
Look at it like this. Would you rather have patio dining during a wind storm or during a calm day? Fish are surprisingly the same. Big swell makes for lockjaw syndrome. They seek shelter. Calmer seas make them want to come out and play.
Better wx makes for an all around better day OTW.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Jason B on April 10, 2018, 10:39:29 PM
   I’ll be on the beach waiting for the yard sale
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Azkikr on April 10, 2018, 10:56:44 PM
Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener.
It's just another day.
I'd rather fish a better day a week later than a shitty day on the opener.
Will the fishing be worse a week later with better conditions? ...no.
Will it be better fishing...more than likely.
Pick your battles.
Look at it like this. Would you rather have patio dining during a wind storm or during a calm day? Fish are surprisingly the same. Big swell makes for lockjaw syndrome. They seek shelter. Calmer seas make them want to come out and play.
Better wx makes for an all around better day OTW.
+1
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Chadrock on April 11, 2018, 06:10:51 AM
Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener.
It's just another day.
I'd rather fish a better day a week later than a shitty day on the opener.
Will the fishing be worse a week later with better conditions? ...no.
Will it be better fishing...more than likely.
Pick your battles.
Look at it like this. Would you rather have patio dining during a wind storm or during a calm day? Fish are surprisingly the same. Big swell makes for lockjaw syndrome. They seek shelter. Calmer seas make them want to come out and play.
Better wx makes for an all around better day OTW.

What he said.

I’ve got 8 months of weekends to fish if I don’t like the forecast.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Dogwood on April 11, 2018, 04:07:07 PM
Really don't like swells like that especially when it comes from behind you.
Title: Re: 8 foot swell to big for the kayak?
Post by: Tez on April 11, 2018, 06:10:11 PM
Really don't like swells like that especially when it comes from behind you.
At the end of last season, there was a day in Sonoma with a 6.5 WNW Primary swell...not too bad but lumpy.   After fishing for an hour or so in the same spot, we started to get tired of fighting the ripping current going the other way.   As we made our way back toward launch, a random weird sleeper cross-swell situation happened about 25 feet behind us (where we had just been fishing about 2 minutes prior).  There was a violent wave collision that could have easily flipped a kayak, and made things dangerous, especially with the strong current and proximity to the rocks we were fishing.  It was sketchy and unexpected.

Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener. Anxious about the opener.
It's just another day.
I'd rather fish a better day a week later than a shitty day on the opener.
Will the fishing be worse a week later with better conditions? ...no.
Will it be better fishing...more than likely.
Pick your battles.
Look at it like this. Would you rather have patio dining during a wind storm or during a calm day? Fish are surprisingly the same. Big swell makes for lockjaw syndrome. They seek shelter. Calmer seas make them want to come out and play.
Better wx makes for an all around better day OTW.

What he said.

I’ve got 8 months of weekends to fish if I don’t like the forecast.

+1.  Plenty of Good days ahead.