Whats the reason for removal ?
Is it a danger to boaters who are going to fast and not looking where there going in the fog ?

Quote from: srdave on March 29, 2024, 06:39:05 AM

What are there rules for party boats for a descending device ?
Another question:  if your on a party boat and you have caught your limit do you have to stop fishing ? My son said they move fish from your bag to others who have not caught limits and every one keeps fishing ?

What are there rules for party boats for a descending device ? Same rule
Another question:  if your on a party boat and you have caught your limit do you have to stop fishing ? My son said they move fish from your bag to others who have not caught limits and every one keeps fishing ?  There is a boat limit rule.

Paul
Thanks for the clarification...

Ya agree about the clutter on the kayak for sure
Im going to use a heavy Duty 2ft old fishing rod n reel and a 12oz weight. I can usually get the fish to go back down on its own so its not going to be that bad. Plus I do believe if the fish is in fair shape these will help with survival rates.

So there shutting down all of October and then re-open for November hmmm kinda like the old abalone diving rules where July was closed. Interesting.

Remember that the people proposing the new MPAs will need a project next year, and the year after that, etc. Their projects will not involve adding fishing opportunities. Only mother nature can do that. The quillbacks are fine, rockfish and lings are abundant, and there's no actual problem for these clowns to address, but they've become more aggressive about restricting fishing and crabbing anyway.

These people are either politically compromised, easily manipulated by pressure, or true believers raised on every nature show telling them the ocean is dying because of fisherman. If there are no "problems" for them to address, they'll make things up and that's exactly what the new MPAs are. It's just the latest made-up cause. They want to reduce fishing opportunities gradually while saying that's not what they are doing. If limits are cut, that's not coming back. If MPAs are established, the fishing opportunities aren't coming back.

Exactly I will even go further and say they want to stop "any" fishing and diving along the coast, they are not angler friendly. There are a ton of things they could put in place to help out but there "only" response is it "close" the season.

So the 20 fathom = (120ft) boundary you speak of is that inside 20 fathoms or outside ?

Like last year they opened for what 6 weeks they don't seam to realize in throes 6 weeks we "maybe" can go ocean fishing what maybe 2 times if your a working man. They don't seem to realize weather is a big factor if we can even go fishing.
Lets face it these regulations are all about the party boats if they were serious about really reducing the rockfish take they would drop the limit to 6 fish and 1 lingcod. Make Blue and Black rockfish and other species that you can throw back easy "size limits" for inshore fishing, including shore fishing any rockfing from shore can be tossed back. Descender for any boat and kayak would help too.
There is so much they could do but for some reason they never drop the whole bag limit and mandatory size for rockfish I have no idea why. They could make a different bag and size for party boats ouside the 20 or 30 fathom limit and not let the party boats fish inside.
Together were all competing for the same fish in the same waters they need to seprtate party/commercial from recreation and kayak fishing.
IDK guys Im a really old fishing dude I could be talking out my but this is just my take after fish out coast for 70+years sorry !

Don't spend a ton of money till you find out if your going to enjoy the north coast.  The north coast is a fabulous place to dive lots of fun and you will have a good time. Once you learn it you can never let it go its just so cool...However there is a huge difference between the two. Belize has about 100ft vis north coast average day 5-10 maybe bad day cant see the end of your speargun. Then again some days its killler too and its 20+ ft. not too often. Then there's temperature.. Belize around 82* north coast 52* . and last but not least swells/surge just have to go on good days. If I was talking to someone starting out I would rent a suite and see if you can barrow a speargun. The dive class is a good idea too but what ever you do go with someone that has a lot of experience and is not some gung ho jurk take you out on a rough day ya sure we can dive that, that will not end good for anyone. Done right you will never want to leave and love it.

Now that's news to me about Mendo and Humbolt kelp not coming back. It has been said on this forum the no Meno and especially Humbolt was just wonderful and had no problems. Thats too bad I thought there was hope it was just Marin/Sonoma.
This is going to hurt in a lot of ways Divers and all the businesses that are connected to coastal diving.
I know the ocean has ways to regenerate but those urchins have built in survival mechanism to make sure the survive.
Now do any of the "powers to be" have a plan?