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Kayak Fishing Zone => Safety First => Topic started by: Sailfish on July 05, 2012, 05:26:58 PM

Title: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: Sailfish on July 05, 2012, 05:26:58 PM
Not a bad idea...

http://www.kayakanglermag.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1430:viral-video-kayak-self-rescue-ladder-video&catid=73:buzz-bait&Itemid=142 (http://www.kayakanglermag.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1430:viral-video-kayak-self-rescue-ladder-video&catid=73:buzz-bait&Itemid=142)
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: scubaluis on July 05, 2012, 05:53:54 PM
That is a good idea, could use an old water ski handle ( witch floats too) or make your own.
just have to figure out where to attached it to, my Hobie adventure does not have handles but maybe the seat straps could work.

Scubaluis
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: Tote on July 05, 2012, 06:11:36 PM
I'm not sold.
I'm not saying that others might not benefit from it, but IMO it's just one more gadget.
Where would one stow it? Is it possible for you to actually get tangled in it when your yak does flip?
I watched the video. No PFD in effect. He was wearing an inflatable but did not inflate it.
No paddle leash.
I think those two things should be addressed before anything else.
You can do essentially the same thing with your paddle leash..that is...if you have one.
Just practice, practice, practice self rescue and you will find out you won't need anything but what Mother Nature gave you to work with.
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: RacinRob on July 05, 2012, 06:18:54 PM
I'm with Tote on this one.
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: CrawFish on July 05, 2012, 08:57:09 PM
Yea, agreed on the paddle leash and PFD, I am not even in the water long enough to use that thing. By the time he goes around his boat twice I am back to fishing. :smt002
I would also suggest its so much easier when all your crap is securely strapped down ( His crate was way too loose).
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: mooch on July 05, 2012, 09:50:28 PM
this is nothing new. Sit inside kayakers have been using this method. It's called a stirrup.

Don't knock it till you try it - it works. I had to do all the self rescue scenarios when I worked for Aquan. I suggest trying all the rescue techniques and decide on what works easiest for you.


http://www.useakayak.org/recoveries_rescues/pf_stirrup_rec.html (http://www.useakayak.org/recoveries_rescues/pf_stirrup_rec.html)
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: Tote on July 05, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
I have no doubt it works.
A Penn jigmaster would work in a small stream too, doesn't mean I want to use it.  :smt044
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: NoSoupForU on July 05, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
I'm not sold.
I'm not saying that others might not benefit from it, but IMO it's just one more gadget.
Where would one stow it? Is it possible for you to actually get tangled in it when your yak does flip?
I watched the video. No PFD in effect. He was wearing an inflatable but did not inflate it.
No paddle leash.
I think those two things should be addressed before anything else.
You can do essentially the same thing with your paddle leash..that is...if you have one.
Just practice, practice, practice self rescue and you will find out you won't need anything but what Mother Nature gave you to work with.
I saw this video earlier and noticed the same things.  I feel there is no substitute for practicing a self rescue without anything to help.  That way you are at your best under the worst conditions.  If you happen to have tools like this ladder that just makes the situation a little easier.
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: mooch on July 05, 2012, 11:50:21 PM
Any type of device that can help someone self rescue with the least amount of energy is always a good thing. Just keep in mind that not everyone who paddles a kayak is as "able" as you are. Now that I'm on a weak state of health, I'd rather have a kayak rigged more for safety than fishability.....but that's just me  :smt002
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: Spike on July 06, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
I like it better for sit-ins than sit-ons.  I could see an angler needing to use it without practice, because he was too exhausted to get back in his boat which he/she was capable of doing before getting tired, only to keep pulling the boat towards them and failing to re-mount.
I'm not sold either.  If things get that desparate, I want to be well dressed for a long swim and hopefully be able to stay with my boat, without being beaten to death by it, before I get too tired and have a heart attack.
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: PISCEAN on July 06, 2012, 01:40:05 PM
The stirrup rescue totally works. I used it in classes when I had paddlers of the more "grizzly bear" physique, and sometimes women who didn't quite have the upper body strength after 3-4 different rescues. I carried a pre-tied piece of rope in my deck bag.

Not quite sure why this is a product though :smt005..., its just a piece of hollow line and a few pieces of PVC plumbing pipe....not really a ladder.
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: DrHabanero on July 06, 2012, 01:54:20 PM
Good thing he has a Hobie since his paddle was floating away!  :smt044
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: Lost Coast Teatotaller on July 14, 2012, 04:51:22 PM
Good idea and looks easy to make.  I still need to practice self rescue in the ocean and this might be a good backup if I can't myself from the water.  Thanks, sailfish
Title: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: FolsomFishing on July 14, 2012, 05:13:33 PM
Was that a trolling motor on the back of a Hobie?!?
Title: Re: SOT Kayak Self Rescue Ladder
Post by: Sailfish on July 14, 2012, 06:21:25 PM
Was that a trolling motor on the back of a Hobie?!?

Yes it's.