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Topic: carry a spare mirage drive on your Hobie? [updated]  (Read 6059 times)

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I've got a second mirage drive and thought it might be smart to carry it on my AI. Inside the front hatch would be best since I don't use that space. But I can't get it to fit thru the hatch. So, just wondering if anybody carries a 2nd mirage drive and, if so, where do you put it?
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A decent paddle would take up less room.
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I do carry a back up drive.  After a few minutes of paddling I can lose feeling in my arms or the pain is to intense to cont.  I did have one break OTW before but was able to do a temp repair and keep going.  I use the hatch areas for other stuff so just set it in the back under the elastic straps.  I use rope or something to secure it in case of a roll over.
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A decent paddle would take up less room.

True, but paddling the AI is no fun under the best of circumstances.
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I do carry a back up drive.  ...  just set it in the back under the elastic straps.

That'll certainly work, but prefer to keep that area as open as possible for those rare occasions when I actually catch a decent fish. To me, the front hatch seems like the ideal place. Maybe I can figure out a way to get the pedals to fold over, or shorten the crank arms, or ...

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I don't carry one as of now, but I'm in the market....

What I do carry is a spare mirage drive chain, a spare "idler" cable, and a few spare cotter rings and whatever those little pegs are called that hold the fins onto the mast. (And a couple wrenches to swap stuff out if needed). My drive is always leashed to the boat, so there's little risk of losing the whole drive.

Have you thought about (partially) disassembling the spare drive to make it fit? Maybe remove the fins?


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The old AI front hatch won't fit the MD.
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Have you thought about (partially) disassembling the spare drive to make it fit? Maybe remove the fins?

Have definitely thought about this---if I didn't have a complete spare drive (due to owning 2 Hobies), I'd carry parts. But it just seems so much easier to swap out the drive, and in the grand scheme of the AI, it's not much extra weight to carry.
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The old AI front hatch won't fit the MD.
The new AI hatch is bigger and deeper, it fits MD with room to spare.

That's good to know, but don't think I'll be upgrading to a post-2014 model anytime soon. Currently, I've got a 2014 AI and a 2013 Adventure (aka Revo 16).
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I have been debating on purchasing either a Outback or Revo 13.
If the drive mechanism has so many problems you need to carry spare parts.
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You don't buy a new car and proceed to buy spare parts in case something breaks? Am I missing something??
Or are the problems on older models and newer models bugs have been worked out ????????

It would be interesting to see how many own a hobie and how many of those folks have had drive problems??

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I have been debating on purchasing either a Outback or Revo 13.
If the drive mechanism has so many problems you need to carry spare parts.
Forget Hobie I will stick with my Trident and keep paddling

You don't buy a new car and proceed to buy spare parts in case something breaks? Am I missing something??
Or are the problems on older models and newer models bugs have been worked out ????????

It would be interesting to see how many own a hobie and how many of those folks have had drive problems??

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I've owned a few Hobies and I abuse the shit outta them. Never had an issue with the mirage drive. Probably yakfished the salt 100+ times in my previous Hobie (2010 Revo 13). The only thing that ever happened was a slightly-bent fin mast when I slammed into a hidden bridge piling in the Salinas river...but it was an easy fix, just bend it back.
I carry a spare paddle inside the hull. But that's only insurance if my mirage drive breaks AND my regular paddle breaks...which seems unlikely. IMO my old Revo 13 and newer Revo 16 both paddle better than some of the paddle yaks I've owned (i.e., Drifter, Big Game, Malibu2 tandem, Jax Coosa). So the extra mirage drive is just an unnessesary luxury to me...nice to have, but not mandatory.
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If the drive mechanism has so many problems you need to carry spare parts.
Forget Hobie I will stick with my Trident and keep paddling

Exactly why i sold all of my hobies and reverted to a T11.  I surely do miss the hands free, but I do NAUGHTTTT miss the equipment failure anxiety.  Had a few OTW drive failures, and each one SUQT.  When 4 miles from your Big Sur launch with a tankwell full of fish and your drive goes out....

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The drive doesn't have "so many problems"... They are actually quite reliable.

Some parts do wear out and need to be replaced after a couple/few years of heavy use, but that's no big deal. Just rinse and inspect after every trip, replace parts that show rust, and you'll be fine.


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The drive doesn't have "so many problems"... They are actually quite reliable.

This.

Never meant to imply that the mirage drive is unreliable. I have used mine hundreds of times without any issue. I do some simple routine maintenance once a year and give it a quick inspection before each launch.  But, anything mechanical can fail, I've got a spare drive, and I'd prefer to carry my spare drive rather than a paddle.
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