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Kayak Fishing Zone => General Fishing Tips => Topic started by: Northern Boy on September 23, 2008, 12:19:19 PM

Title: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Northern Boy on September 23, 2008, 12:19:19 PM
To keep folks safe and happy?

And give not-so-newbies a reference list to point newbies to

Along the lines of;

When kayaking in the ocean for the first time it is strongly/absolutely recommended that you

1. Go with at least one other person who is experienced.
2. Have a good personal flotation device (PFD; life vest).
3. Consult and understand the weather forecast (nws.noaa.gov).
4. Have practised self-rescue in your kayak before going.
5. Have a wetsuit (we could debate this one).
6. Have a marine radio and know how to use it.

What else?


Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: LoletaEric on September 23, 2008, 12:29:06 PM
Good topic, Phil.

I think you need to add:

1)  Compass;
2)  GPS;
3)  Water;
4)  Spare paddle;
5)  Sunscreen;
6)  Bilge Pump.

1)  being the absolute most important item.

Of course, I think everyone should have a video camera too!   :smt003
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Yakattack on September 23, 2008, 01:16:35 PM
Great idea Phil!

1. Tether everything that you do not want to lose.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: HDRich on September 23, 2008, 01:31:16 PM
All of the above and:

Flare gun

Canned air horn

hull full of pool noodles

Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: LoletaEric on September 23, 2008, 04:17:52 PM
1. Tether everything that you do not want to lose.
All of the above and:
Flare gun

Canned air horn

hull full of pool noodles

Very good - I agree.   :smt001
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Dale L on September 23, 2008, 06:02:51 PM
IMHO

Great thread idea Phil!!

If you're new to the ocean,

a wetsuit (farmer john) is not debatable,

it's a sensible safety requirement,

after a little experience you can make a more informed decision, then decide if you need to continue wearing it.

I was a diver before I was a yakker and being in a wetsuit all day doesn't bother me. makes me feel safe, (of course it does have a relief zipper)

Oh and I do have a compass firmly attached to the yak.


dale
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: mickfish on September 24, 2008, 12:01:15 AM
First Aid Kit
Tow Rope
Strobe
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Jedmo on September 24, 2008, 06:41:38 AM
Yes to all of the above but don't forget the dramamine or the scopace.
Otherwise you'll end up like me chumming the water. Oh, one more thing,
nice pair of sunglasses and a wide brim hat.

Jedmo
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: mooch on September 24, 2008, 08:44:35 AM
...always leave a float plan with a friend or family member (just in case you go missing, at least someone will know where you launched from or where your heading to)

* A whistle is also good to have - I use the Fox 40 pealess whistle (attach to your PFD)

* A compass is a very good back-up - in case your GPS batteries die on you.

* Food (snicker bar or energy bar) and water (I have a water bottle and drop a Nuun tab in it: Nuun- portable electrolyte hydration)

* Dive knife

* Polarized sunglasses
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Eric B on September 24, 2008, 12:26:03 PM
Dielectric grease on all electrical connections, (don't forget the VHF battery terminals), and Corrosion-X on all other non-stainless steel metal.  Best to plan on everything being submerged.

Also a pair of pliers for removing stubborn hooks, preferrably with a cutter built in just in case you hook yourself.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sin Coast on September 24, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Spare paddle tucked inside the hull.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: tallpaul on September 24, 2008, 05:44:18 PM
Fifty cents to call your mommy    :smt001
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: FindThatFish on September 24, 2008, 06:04:42 PM
To keep folks safe and happy?
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What else?
to be safe and stay safe,,,you already know what you need.  :smt002
to be happy and stay happy,,,don't forget your fishing gears and water-proof camera!!!  :smt003
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: otolith on September 24, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
glad this thread got started, cant figure out anything to add  :smt001

eric b, great suggestion, would never have thought of that. going to make that happen asap before i hit the salt again.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: CaptainKayak on September 24, 2008, 09:52:53 PM
I'm a newbie with only one launch under my belt (Thanks to Northernboy and others for Stillwater) but I made sure to carry at least a couple of powerbars or fruitbars in my drybag. I felt comfortable and safe while on the kayak and I think I can partly attribute that to the gear I brought with me.

I had the following:
Water
Food
bilge pump
wetsuit
vhf radio - I didn't say much but I intently listened to what was going on.
hydrosilk shirt
hydrosilk socks
neoprene shoes
sunscreen
polarized sun glasses
paddling gloves - I didn't use it but had it
hat
tow rope
PFD with mirror,whistle, and flash capable lights in pockets to grab attention if I get dumped and get separated from my kayak
Tethered as much equipment as possible

What I wished I had:
GPS - I have this now for the next launch
Compass
Swim Flippers - I don't know why I think I need this but for some reason my brain tells me to stow it inside the hull
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Usagi on September 25, 2008, 09:41:04 AM
Someone needs to Wiki this.  :smt003
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Dale L on September 25, 2008, 09:55:20 AM


I had the following:
..........................
Swim Flippers - I don't know why I think I need this but for some reason my brain tells me to stow it inside the hull

I started by diving out of my yak before I started fishing from it, and fins make it oh so much easier to reboard the yak, but only if you have them on.  Then the first few times I went just fishing I took them just in case but always left them tethered above deck for quick donning if needed.  I don't take them anymore but can't argue that you shouldn't, especially if the stuff really hits the fan and you have to swim in. It could happen.

Dale L

Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: hightide on September 25, 2008, 09:20:11 PM
don't forget the big O'L BAT to keep the deck quiet. :violent1:
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Gue on October 15, 2008, 09:11:34 AM

     The only thing that comes to mind for me to add is a fish glove or lip gripper to prevent "rockfish thumb"... :smt001
 
Gue
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Fish Master1 on October 15, 2008, 02:13:29 PM
Dude I cant believe you guys left out BEER!!!! :beer3
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Great Bass 2 on November 18, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
Common sense and respect for the ocean. There is no substitute for understanding the situation and knowing your limitations. If you can afford it - EPIRB and shark shield.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sin Coast on November 19, 2008, 01:30:28 PM
Over the past 4 years of hardcore kayak fishing in the ocean, I have never needed a bat. It just isn't necessary, and I like to have LESS junk on my kayak. The only fish that might need clubbing are halibut, sturgeon, and sharks. Everything else--just put em on the game clip and cut the gills.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: jonesz on November 20, 2008, 07:34:52 AM
Another good little tip is to tether your paddle, so if you take the unexpected dump in a wind, it'll act as a sea anchor for the boat. Plastic yaks can drift faster than you can swim in a strong wind and leave you out there on your own. It'll give you a fighting chance to catch it before it's too late... Also keep the radio on or in your vest. Won't do you much good if it seperates from you. I use a piece of the one piece velcro to hold it to my shoulder strap. Combined with the clip that's on the radio does a good job of keeping it in place. It's also real convenient to talk with it the during the constant banter during these NCKA outings... :smt002
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: peteb on December 27, 2008, 09:17:01 AM
Rather than bringing fins, a buddy of mine who has kayak fished years suggests bringing "paddle gloves" with wide webbing like a frog, that take up no space and can be stowed in a ditch bag and used in a pinch to paddle yourself in.  Sounded pretty smart to me... 
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: PJ on January 07, 2009, 07:46:03 PM
A wetsuit that will keep you warm in the water temp you would be swimming in if you fell out of or lost your boat is MANDATORY!!!  I never leave shore without a 4/3 surfing full wetsuit (sealed seams) at least in my hold.  The minimum I wear is a 2 mil springsuit.

Other than that I try to keep it to a bare minimum as others will attest to;

In order of importance in my yak,
4 mil surf suit
PFD with compass & whistle in pocket tethered, submersible VHF clipped & tethered to the vest as well
2 paddles, one in the hull in case i loose the other
GPS
rods, reels, small tackle box.
swiss army knife
gaff
6' length of 500 lb. test line (stringer)

In 3 years I've never really needed or want more than that.  Although I did kind of wish I had a Sig Sauer 9mm when my shark came to color.  Turns out I didn't need it.

PJ
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: littoral on January 07, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
In order of importance in my yak,
...
swiss army knife
...

You mean you used to carry a swiss army knife. :smt002
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: bluekayak on January 07, 2009, 09:13:53 PM
Travel light

the less you carry the better

unless you're talking about fish  :cowboy_smoke:


I agree with Abking, #1 is a compass And if there's any sign of fog pay attention to it

#2 is h2o, and keep it where you can get at it if you get caught in a blow, which happens faster than you can think
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Squidder K on February 03, 2009, 02:40:16 PM
I have a small weather radio along with the previous mentioned stuff. 
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: bajareefer on February 03, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
I agree w/ PJ.

There are different levels of danger and I for one want to frontload the remedy to the ones that kill the quickest.
I used to live in Seattle and I learned there that fisherman who went overboard often died of cold despite having good flotation gear. In fact, when the water was 49-50 degrees they died in 20 minutes!!! Down here we are what? 54 degrees?  That means you die 5 minutes slower?
Now the cold water kills faster then anything and flotation gear can only save you from drowning. if you are to get top-side again pretty quick, fine....
 if not, the only thing that would save anyone is a wetsuit.
I prefer a 6.5 mm farmer john in winter and a 3mm in summer. It floats you and keeps you protected from the strength sapping, freezing water. For me its far, far better then a PFD.
The PFD may keep you face up and safe from drowning if you're knocked out but you still better be pulled out of the water w/in 20 minutes if you are gonna live.
A PFD and a wetsuit fills the need indeed. Between the two, I feel much safer in a wetsuit then the legally mandated PFD.
Safe and warm topside you now have lotsa time to save yourself from the other threats.
Steve
Plus, if you get battered in the rocks, it helps to reduce injury.......... and if a shark bites you you taste so bad that he doesn't return. The suit also holds your wounds together like a burrito.

Doesn't return...OK I made that up.

 
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sledge on May 18, 2009, 09:59:21 AM
Yes to all of the above but don't forget the dramamine or the scopace.
Otherwise you'll end up like me chumming the water. Oh, one more thing,
nice pair of sunglasses and a wide brim hat.

Jedmo
2 seasons ago i didn't have dramamine and chummed all day, wouldn't go back in because i had a couple of good hookups on live bait "Lings" and was determined to catch one... last season opener windy big swells @ Ocean Cove, I took 2 tabs and paddled out, within 30 minutes I was falling asleep, paddled back to shore and basically collapsed woke 2hrs latter feeling like crap...sorta ruined a fishing day...camp host said fresh ginger is a great alternative...
mike....
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: baitNbeer on June 21, 2009, 05:56:28 PM
"wouldn't go back in because i had a couple of good hookups on live bait "Lings" and was determined to catch one... "

^^ savage! true fishermen ish
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sledge on June 22, 2009, 12:13:33 PM
"wouldn't go back in because i had a couple of good hookups on live bait "Lings" and was determined to catch one... "

^^ savage! true fishermen ish
:smt003
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: tyrannoman on August 09, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Does anyone here use a drysuit? I have one, and feel much better in it than my farmer john. It's cooler, breathable, and far more comfortable.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: gone_fishin on August 13, 2009, 01:42:31 PM
As newbie, all info is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Bkayaking on August 14, 2009, 09:37:59 PM
My experience..., 75% of my clients that start to get alittle green around the gills will be fine if kept busy. (From the start) I'll go as far as to say, even having them re-tie a knot, paddling to a new spot, to focusing on a landmark, all seem to help. Talking, etc. Also, I've found that a empty stomach doesn't help. Dramamine is fine, but I'm not a fan.
Blake
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: AznYakker on August 26, 2009, 02:33:39 PM
Thanks for the great info. I'll put them to good use.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: fishinfool on October 22, 2009, 10:48:36 AM
Thank you guys so much for your suggestions. As a newbie myself I find this info so useful. I have compiled all of the suggestions in this thread into one list. Hopefully I have deleted all of the duplicates. This by no means is a list of everything to bring because your yak may sink with everything in it, but it seems to be a complete list of what you may need....

Go with at least one other person who is experienced.
PFD with mirror, whistle, and flash capable lights in pockets in case you drift from yak
Wetsuit or farmer john to keep you warm incase you go overboard, hypothermia kills
Consult and understand the weather forecast (nws.noaa.gov).
practiced self-rescue in your kayak before going.
Have a marine radio and know how to use it.
Compass
GPS
Water
Spare food
Electrolyte pack for h20
Spare paddle
Sunscreen
Bilge Pump
12v Battery
Tether everything that you do not want to lose.
Flare gun
canned air horn
hull full of pool noodles
First Aid Kit
Tow Rope
Strobe
Dramamine
leave a float plan with a friend or family member of where you launched and are going
Dive knife
Polarized sunglasses
Dielectric grease on all electrical connections
pair of pliers for removing stubborn hooks, preferably with nips in case you hook yourself.
Spare paddle tucked inside the hull.
vhf radio
hydrosilk shirt
hydrosilk socks
neoprene shoes
sunscreen
paddling gloves
hat
Tethered as much equipment as possible
GPS / Fish finder
Swim Flippers
Fish holding glove
Bat gaff
rods, reels, small tackle box.
swiss army knife
6' length of 500 lb. test line (stringer)
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: sharky on October 22, 2009, 11:08:55 AM
I agree w/ PJ.

There are different levels of danger and I for one want to frontload the remedy to the ones that kill the quickest.
I used to live in Seattle and I learned there that fisherman who went overboard often died of cold despite having good flotation gear. In fact, when the water was 49-50 degrees they died in 20 minutes!!! Down here we are what? 54 degrees?  That means you die 5 minutes slower?
Now the cold water kills faster then anything and flotation gear can only save you from drowning. if you are to get top-side again pretty quick, fine....
 if not, the only thing that would save anyone is a wetsuit.
I prefer a 6.5 mm farmer john in winter and a 3mm in summer. It floats you and keeps you protected from the strength sapping, freezing water. For me its far, far better then a PFD.
The PFD may keep you face up and safe from drowning if you're knocked out but you still better be pulled out of the water w/in 20 minutes if you are gonna live.
A PFD and a wetsuit fills the need indeed. Between the two, I feel much safer in a wetsuit then the legally mandated PFD.
Safe and warm topside you now have lotsa time to save yourself from the other threats.
Steve
Plus, if you get battered in the rocks, it helps to reduce injury.......... and if a shark bites you you taste so bad that he doesn't return. The suit also holds your wounds together like a burrito.

Doesn't return...OK I made that up.

 

Agreed, and I can tell you from personal expierence, the suit did hold me together like a burrito, and was another important factor in saving my life.....Dosent return...hehe....it did follow me for awhile, but didnt attack again. might have been the wetsuit but i beleive it had something to do with the black eye Id just given it and my high blood/tequila levels from the night before. Yes I credit getting $417face the night b4 4 being a factor in saving me :beer2  :shark
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: baitNbeer on October 22, 2009, 08:54:41 PM
dam
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: dreamcatcher on January 10, 2010, 09:30:12 PM
I wear a farmer john wetsuit,booties,a windbreaker over a longsleve tee shirt and either a knit cap or a floppy hat w/ sunglasses.
 That's the standard for me to feel safe and warm.Keep all your gear stowed away and or leashed.Remove all hooks and lures before landing, and always try to yak with a buddy who knows the area well.Exit the water one at a time just in case you need help at the shoreline. Tell someone where you are going and when you will be back. Call them when you're back to the truck and give a report. Remember to bring the bait and a big stringer! :smt003
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: kayakjack on March 31, 2010, 07:44:48 AM
I say limit the number of leashes. i see too many guys with too many leashes. all that leashed up gear can entangle you. it can also prevent you from getting back into your boat. i only leash my paddle.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: joey on May 17, 2010, 07:59:59 PM
a couple beers will provide good carbs to burn on a long paddle and good entertainment if the bite isn't wide open!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: PizzleFry on June 06, 2010, 09:59:03 AM
Quote
I say limit the number of leashes. i see too many guys with too many leashes. all that leashed up gear can entangle you. it can also prevent you from getting back into your boat. i only leash my paddle.

Newbie here who leashed everything (two rods, net, paddle) on my first trip out.  My buddie short hooked a fairly large black rockfish and I used the net to secure the catch, but I immediately realized the situation: his fish in my net tethered to my boat and he wanted to take his time dealing with the fish.  Not to mention we were drifting toward a wash rock.  I convinced him to deal with the fish quickly (i.e. "if you're gonna bonk it bonk it now!"), but then the situation got stickier.  His paddle leash somehow got tangled in the net leash (can anyone say "newbie cluster f*ck"?) as we neared to within one decent swell's ability to put us on the rock.  My buddy was fumbling trying to untangle the mess and I had had enough.  Out came my knife, the leash was in two, and we were paddling away from the rock.  I will be the first to admit that it was probably operator error or bad judgement or (likely) a combination thereof that put us in this situation, but I definitely learned the potential for dangerous situations resulting from over-leash-itis...
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Fish 'n Brew on June 06, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
I had to use the compass yesterday when the fog rolled into Tomales Bay in the afternoon.  It's one thing to be able to see the glow of the sun to find East but another to set a heading with a simple compass and land at the right place.  I forgot my GPS but the compass was a real comforting factor when I realized I couldn't determine direction by sight.  I have one that's made for kayaks that stretches across the front of the bow with bungie cords that clip onto stainless rings I installed.  Don't leave home without one!  The fog can come in really fast!

Martin
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sledge on June 09, 2010, 08:58:09 AM
Quote
I say limit the number of leashes. i see too many guys with too many leashes. all that leashed up gear can entangle you. it can also prevent you from getting back into your boat. i only leash my paddle.

Newbie here who leashed everything (two rods, net, paddle) on my first trip out.  My buddie short hooked a fairly large black rockfish and I used the net to secure the catch, but I immediately realized the situation: his fish in my net tethered to my boat and he wanted to take his time dealing with the fish.  Not to mention we were drifting toward a wash rock.  I convinced him to deal with the fish quickly (i.e. "if you're gonna bonk it bonk it now!"), but then the situation got stickier.  His paddle leash somehow got tangled in the net leash (can anyone say "newbie cluster f*ck"?) as we neared to within one decent swell's ability to put us on the rock.  My buddy was fumbling trying to untangle the mess and I had had enough.  Out came my knife, the leash was in two, and we were paddling away from the rock.  I will be the first to admit that it was probably operator error or bad judgement or (likely) a combination thereof that put us in this situation, but I definitely learned the potential for dangerous situations resulting from over-leash-itis...


Nice keeping your head while major bad mojo was in the works...and whipping out  with the knife!!!  Hell Yeah!!!  way to correct a F'ed up situation......... :smt044 :smt044 :smt044
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: dreamcatcher on July 19, 2010, 03:22:26 PM
 I was out the other day and saw a newbie who was tying off to seaweed on the side of his boat,that can be dangerous in big swells, it can roll you over in no time at all. I suggest a line tied to the front of the yak with a carribeaner at the end. It can be used as a tow line and keeps the yak stable and stationary. I use a line about 12 to 15 ft to allow for surge and swell.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: AlsHobieOutback on July 19, 2010, 03:47:02 PM
I was out the other day and saw a newbie who was tying off to seaweed on the side of his boat,that can be dangerous in big swells, it can roll you over in no time at all. I suggest a line tied to the front of the yak with a carribeaner at the end. It can be used as a tow line and keeps the yak stable and stationary. I use a line about 12 to 15 ft to allow for surge and swell.
If I do tie up to kelp, i usually toss a strip of kelp on my foot peg and press my foot down on it.  Release is easy, just lift my foot!  Although I have a kelp clip now, I still haven't tried it out.   :smt005
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Ross on August 20, 2010, 06:36:48 PM
Mooch says: I use the Fox 40 pealess whistle

What I wanna know: Do they make a Fox 40 peeless wetsuit? Why oh why didn't I buy one with a relief valve?
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: ianh on March 12, 2011, 03:20:24 AM
I have been fishing off of a 9'8" longboard with a milk crate bungied on the front.  I always wear a full wetsuit, booties and sometimes a hood.  I only go out a half mile or less so I don't have a radio or compass.   

Two days ago the wind push me over a rock covered with kelp.  I knew the rock was there and thought I could float over it.  The swell surged and my fin must of caught the rock and I did a slow roll and ended up swimming in 54 deg water.  I flipped my board over, grabbed a floating plastic jar that had fallen out, threw the jar back in the milk crate and climbed back on and continued fishing.

For me the most dangerous situation is getting in and out of the water.  With a surfboard I can get through heavy shore break if I time it right.  But adding a milkcrate full of fishing gear changes everything. 

I've surfed for many years and the worst situation is getting out of the water at high tide (5  to 6+ ft) with heavy surf - this is when the waves can sweep you off your feet and then slam you into the sand.

I've been having a lot of fun fishing, but the ocean is a dangerous place and you need to know your limitations.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Chubasco on August 24, 2011, 06:22:05 PM
    SMOKE FLARES....For daytime. I've been broke down in the bay. Private boat.
Shot off flares, you realy can't see them in the day.
Smoke flares you can see for miles and most boaters know red or yellow smoke means help.   
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Cabeza de Martillo on March 15, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
Excellent sticky lots of great info for newbies like myself.

Thanks for sharing.

Antonio
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: halibutking on April 11, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
is there a list of things that is required by law that you need on your kayak to be in the ocean?  can somebody who knows post this please.. thanks..
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: NoSoupForU on April 26, 2012, 10:55:45 PM
Love the info that is shared here!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: surfingdude on April 28, 2012, 09:24:08 AM
I did not see "space blanket" in this thread...less than 5 bucks everywhere ,, doesn't have any weight,,can be used when wet and cold to warm you  ..also if stored in PFD it would make a very visible thing to use  as a  signal when looking for a rescue ....even drunk fishing boat captains tend to see giant silver things splashing around in the distance.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Raynman10 on September 03, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
Extreme gratitude for all the input. I had no idea how I had put myself in harms way. I was out today trying to troll for stripers off McNear's brickyard in a swim suit & PFD and not much else on the list! I may be new and dumb but I did JOIN NCKA!
Bless you all
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: ybloc on September 15, 2012, 07:16:45 PM
I recently took a lvl1 safety kayaking class and got a farmer john 3.0 wet suit. In the class i practiced self recovery. Im feeling way more confident OTW. Thank you for all the safety tips and trying to keep us safe.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: wrangler on October 15, 2012, 12:16:49 AM
This is a great thread. Thanks a ton for sharing such a valuable information.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: IRPescador on December 19, 2012, 12:45:56 PM
Another newbie expressing his thanks to the forum for the valuable information and advice available in this post.

is there a list of things that is required by law that you need on your kayak to be in the ocean?  can somebody who knows post this please.. thanks..

I read somewhere here that the net is one of those you're required to have (according to DFG), but besides that, I'm not sure.
The US Coast Guard requires the PDF ??
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: BigJim on December 19, 2012, 12:52:07 PM
Another newbie expressing his thanks to the forum for the valuable information and advice available in this post.

is there a list of things that is required by law that you need on your kayak to be in the ocean?  can somebody who knows post this please.. thanks..

I read somewhere here that the net is one of those you're required to have (according to DFG), but besides that, I'm not sure.
The US Coast Guard requires the PDF ??

Yep. PFD is required as well....technically even for divers on yak as well...

 :smt006

Sincerely,

Jim

ps...plenty of other important safety gear that you should have that is not "officially required" but that is probably a different thread.  :smt001
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: SuperVato on February 10, 2013, 05:07:12 PM
This is a great thread. Thanks a ton for sharing such a valuable information.
+1
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: GrimKeeper on February 10, 2013, 05:50:10 PM
Thank you very much for the info. guys. My first experience on the salt with a yak was with my brother (camoken63) and his pair of 8 foot kiddie boats.  For gear we had our clothes, poles and tackle. We went about a mile south of Trinidad and a few hundred yards out. We stayed out for about an hour or so. I came to the realization, wtf are we doing?!?, and headed back. That was a few years ago.I will take your guys' advice to heart.
Let me say Thank You very much again!
Jesse
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: TenCrabs on February 11, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
I have read all of the posts in this thread and I did not see anything mentioned about having a leash attached to your yak if you are way out there. I have a spare boogie board leash and thought that would be a good way not to lose the yak if I went over. I realize you would not want to attach it if you were in the surf going out of coming in. Does anyone do this? or is it a bad idea?

Loren
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: JJQ on February 11, 2013, 03:19:39 PM
I have read all of the posts in this thread and I did not see anything mentioned about having a leash attached to your yak if you are way out there. I have a spare boogie board leash and thought that would be a good way not to lose the yak if I went over. I realize you would not want to attach it if you were in the surf going out of coming in. Does anyone do this? or is it a bad idea?

Loren

Just leash your paddle and don't let go!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sin Coast on February 11, 2013, 05:12:20 PM
There m/b some merit to that idea. I know someone on here, bluekayak, used to advocate it for fishing rough seas offshore. I haven't done it myself, but it seems lime a reasonable idea.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: IsaoK on August 10, 2013, 10:41:59 AM
food.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sailfish on August 10, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
I have read all of the posts in this thread and I did not see anything mentioned about having a leash attached to your yak if you are way out there. I have a spare boogie board leash and thought that would be a good way not to lose the yak if I went over. I realize you would not want to attach it if you were in the surf going out of coming in. Does anyone do this? or is it a bad idea?
Loren

Unless the wind is strong (we shouldn't be out there in that condition in the first place) you should "drift" same speed with the current.  The only drawback I can see with leasing to you yak is you might get tangled when flipped over.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Nobaddays on August 13, 2013, 08:00:17 PM
Another newbie here.. Great info. Thanks all!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: trianglelaguna on September 10, 2013, 07:42:28 PM
newbie here and wondering about that as I have been tying off to the kep with a 3-6' rope and a dog leash type clip...few wraps around a kelp and clip it to it's own rope....pull the slack up later to release...a few bigger swells got my attention and i am wonder how anything in the front of my fish-n-dive would be usable as I am pretty large and doing good to just stay in the boat,without doing any yoga moves to grab loose tied in stuff....love this thread...taking notes...knife handy and compass and whistle are added to my growing list now thanks to reading so far
I was out the other day and saw a newbie who was tying off to seaweed on the side of his boat,that can be dangerous in big swells, it can roll you over in no time at all. I suggest a line tied to the front of the yak with a carribeaner at the end. It can be used as a tow line and keeps the yak stable and stationary. I use a line about 12 to 15 ft to allow for surge and swell.
If I do tie up to kelp, i usually toss a strip of kelp on my foot peg and press my foot down on it.  Release is easy, just lift my foot!  Although I have a kelp clip now, I still haven't tried it out.   :smt005
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: trianglelaguna on September 10, 2013, 07:47:47 PM
never even thought of tossing my extra paddle and a bunch of float worms in the hull...hmmmm
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Dale L on September 10, 2013, 08:40:28 PM
never even thought of tossing my extra paddle and a bunch of float worms in the hull...hmmmm

Might be the most important additions to your yak that you ever make.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: RockMan on October 26, 2013, 06:50:15 PM
Thanks for all the info!

3/27/2014
Swim Cap + Speedos = 45 minutes cold swim at 50 degrees.   :smt006

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Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Paddy-O on February 07, 2014, 10:11:31 PM
Another newbie here - Thanks so much for the great information.   Fantastic required gear safety list.

Question:  I have a 7/5mm wetsuit.  For ocean trips on Sonoma Coast should I use the wetsuit I have or look into getting a drysuit like the Kokatat SuperNova Angler drysuit?  I am a bigger guy and am kind of worried I will be sweating my butt off pedaling my Hobie Outback out there.  Just hoping for some feedback from experienced ocean anglers.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sarge on March 26, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: LoletaEric on March 26, 2014, 09:39:42 PM
Quote from: Sarge
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?

Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: crash on March 26, 2014, 09:50:04 PM
Quote from: Sarge
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?

Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.

http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/articles/139-kayak-fishing-how-to-articles/1720-gear-required-by-the-united-states-coast-guard-when-on-kayaks.html
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: LoletaEric on March 26, 2014, 11:25:05 PM
Quote from: LoletaEric
Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.

Thanks for that link, Doug!  I'd forgotten that we're required to carry a noisemaker and light, and I think it reads that you only need flares if you're out at night.

I'd say you're not likely to be held to that standard very often by the CG or DFW - I've seen both while on the water and never been asked for the smaller things, whereas, I do believe they're attuned to checking for PFD, as they should be.

Having a whistle, small flashlight and hand flares is important - stuff I've not used in years of carrying it, but I have it.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: polepole on March 26, 2014, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Sarge
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?

Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.

http://www.kayakfishingmagazine.net/articles/139-kayak-fishing-how-to-articles/1720-gear-required-by-the-united-states-coast-guard-when-on-kayaks.html

Yeah that!   :smt002

-Allen
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: crash on March 26, 2014, 11:31:09 PM
I always carry two pealess whistles. Haven't had to use one yet, hope to not have to.

Up in Oregon for the Oregon Rockfish Classic out of Depoe bay, the coast guard does an inspection before you are allowed to launch. They require a safety flag in addition to the pfd and whistle.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: polepole on March 26, 2014, 11:35:32 PM
I always carry two pealess whistles. Haven't had to use one yet, hope to not have to.

Up in Oregon for the Oregon Rockfish Classic out of Depoe bay, the coast guard does an inspection before you are allowed to launch. They require a safety flag in addition to the pfd and whistle.

I don't think they require it.  The organizers of ORC do, and I think the the inspectors knew it and asked about it.  I will say that having flags as a requirement for the tournament is very well received by the CG, the local charter boats, and the local boating community in general.  We've received many complements about it.  And the participants really like the extra safety check.  The CG check is mostly done by the volunteer CG Auxiliary, although some years local LE has gotten involved as part of community outreach.

-Allen
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: DrHabanero on March 27, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: Sarge
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?

Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.

Not that it is a good idea but I was told that a sit on kayak is considered a floatation device and you do not need a PDF. When ab diving I often don't bring the pdf since I am jumping in the water anyway.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: MattSwayze on April 22, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
Gotta bring sunglasses! And a good luck cigar of course...
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: RacinRob on April 22, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
I got checked by the sheriffs twice to make sure I had one on board. They then realized I had it on. I would not chance not having it.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: jbaker on April 22, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Quote from: Sarge
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?

Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.

Not that it is a good idea but I was told that a sit on kayak is considered a floatation device and you do not need a PDF. When ab diving I often don't bring the pdf since I am jumping in the water anyway.

Not sure where you got that but the law is very clear on PFD's, have to be on board and accessible. Not in a hatch or under the deck. Also have to be approximate for the vessel (not really applicable to kayaks more of a rule for jet skis that can go over 80mph). Have to fit the intended warier, and have to be in good repair. Also inflatables have to worn to count as a PFD. Children under the age of 12 must always ware a PFD, unless on a sailboat over 26'. Other states have stricter rules but this is the federal guideline that CA uses.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: FishReaper on July 19, 2014, 12:48:53 PM
I ab and scuba dive in addition to Kayak fishing. I would think a pair of fins and a snorkel would be handy if you absolutely had to abandon the boat (get hit by a motorboat or broken up on a hidden wash rock.) They wouldn't take up much space in one of the hatches....and could get you back to shore if you were not too far out....or at least make it easier to tread water with a PFD and keep your head above surface.

Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: charlesthe2nd on February 25, 2015, 11:10:27 AM
This thread definitely helped me.  I have the majority of the things listed, but never thought about attaching a mirror/compass and whistle to my PFD.  Also, the wetsuit will have to be obtained.  Farmer John it is!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: trianglelaguna on February 25, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
one thing I waited to long to get--pool noodles ,or, floating material, stuffed inside my kayyak and a bilge pump

until I watched a buddy sink..then I bought one pump for each kayak and an extra too  :smt001 I watched him sink completely and fast too---I decided I do NOT want to sink -ever

many times my first year ,a mile from shore I could have sunk ,if anything would have ever taken place, to start taking on water, I would have been screwed/swimming

this year I have the kayak full of pool noodles and more recently added the pumps to each kayak...in theory even a bad leak I could now pump the water out pretty quick with the pump,paddle 100 ft...pump out...paddle- stop-pump out again---etc...and make it home to dry land

I bought a cheap pump off ebay and it is super good quality and pumps lots of water fast--the picture is just a interent pic I found

pool noodles stuffed to full inside and a pump...I was lucky nothing happened before I saw and learned  :smt009
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Fish 'n Brew on February 25, 2015, 02:47:45 PM
I have had the safety check done by the Coastguard Auxiliary at ORC.  This would be a nice thing to add to some of our California events.  I still have the sticker on my yak from the inspection, two years ago. 
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Landy on August 30, 2015, 04:53:17 AM
Some great info here that I am definitely going to refer to when I go out. 
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Miblasko on February 25, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
Hey all.  I have a reservation on a party boat for this year's salmon opener on 4/2/16 out of Monterey and was thinking of maybe trying some rock fishing on the Friday before.  I mostly fish rivers on my Jackson Coosa and fish larger lakes from time to time.  I was thinking it would be OK on saltwater in good conditions with a PFD, radio and wetsuit.  Am I crazy?  I have access to an OK 14' Scupper Pro as a potential option as well, but it would add complexity to plan for the trip.  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: crash on February 25, 2016, 10:29:31 PM
Hey all.  I have a reservation on a party boat for this year's salmon opener on 4/2/16 out of Monterey and was thinking of maybe trying some rock fishing on the Friday before.  I mostly fish rivers on my Jackson Coosa and fish larger lakes from time to time.  I was thinking it would be OK on saltwater in good conditions with a PFD, radio and wetsuit.  Am I crazy?  I have access to an OK 14' Scupper Pro as a potential option as well, but it would add complexity to plan for the trip.  What do you guys think?

That's opening day for rockfish down that way, should be easy to score a hookup.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: bwodun on February 26, 2016, 12:09:40 AM
Hey all.  I have a reservation on a party boat for this year's salmon opener on 4/2/16 out of Monterey and was thinking of maybe trying some rock fishing on the Friday before.  I mostly fish rivers on my Jackson Coosa and fish larger lakes from time to time.  I was thinking it would be OK on saltwater in good conditions with a PFD, radio and wetsuit.  Am I crazy?  I have access to an OK 14' Scupper Pro as a potential option as well, but it would add complexity to plan for the trip.  What do you guys think?
the coosa is a great boat for rivers and smaller bodies of water, but i would opt for the scupper pro for going out for rockfish. the coosa just wasn't designed for the ocean, (yes it can handle the calmest of days inshore, but things can change fast on the big blue)and the scupper was, as long as you don't exceed the weight limit for it, with just your weight, not including gear,  like my fat a#@  :smt044, cameron
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: BLewis on May 13, 2016, 05:08:39 PM
This may have been asked already but you'll have to forgive me. I did not read all 7 pages of the replies. i thought this would be a good place to ask a few questions.

I am new to kayak fishing but not new to ocean fishing.

last time I went out at lovers point i wanted to fish the kelp. there were a few divers in the aria and i have heard that there are big fish that like to hide in the kelp. I tried but gave up, and moved on to try and find rocks, after i lost two sets of jigs and snapped one of my rods.

so... is it possible to fish the kelp and not get snagged? is it worth it?
do i need to avoid using certain setups?

thanks for any wisdom you are willing to share.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: BLewis on May 13, 2016, 05:52:18 PM
I should have specified.
I was using weedless bass plastics with a 3oz weight on the bottom.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: beerhunter on May 13, 2016, 09:34:41 PM
Yes it is possible to not get snagged.... Yes fish hide in kelp (not necessary the big ones)  losing gear is part of the rock fish game but.... Stay couple feet off the bottom you should be able to fill it..and away from the main part of the seaweed bundle ( there should be a name for that) and you should be ok.... IF NOT ILL ALWAYS THINK YOU WERE  :smt002
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: little knife on May 28, 2016, 04:53:05 PM
Pool noodles in the hull!  Great idea.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: mireland62887 on December 07, 2016, 08:59:11 AM
From a newbie interested in fishing the salt, this list is great. Lots of stuff on here that makes perfect sense, but I'd never have thought of it.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Mexokie954 on December 12, 2016, 10:38:22 PM
Lots of good info in this thread. Thanks for every ones input.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: grungydungy on May 03, 2017, 10:54:58 PM
I've been kayaking (on a irregular basis) for 6 years now and I wish I had read this when I started!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Overboard on May 16, 2017, 05:20:29 PM
Thanks so much for compiling this list fellas! Tons of useful information!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Robjordanusa on June 13, 2017, 09:56:22 PM
Wow.  Great stuff.  Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Torino521 on September 02, 2017, 12:45:06 PM
Great information here. I'm putting a shopping list together as I read this. Thanks to all that contributed.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: OLDMANRIVER on November 11, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
Quote from: Sarge
where can I go and find out what I need (by law)to have when I am on my yak?

Pretty sure that the PFD is the only legal requirement.

A whislte or horn for day use would also be required.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: achu on November 16, 2017, 12:40:04 PM
thank you. very useful info and great community to share.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: jdr12345 on February 13, 2018, 09:06:25 AM
Thank you NCKA for this sticky! Great info here.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: javelin on March 25, 2018, 11:30:16 PM
How do people generally approach using the bathroom on the kayak? Do you bring a container, go in the ocean, or head back to land?
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Tote on March 26, 2018, 05:32:23 AM
How do people generally approach using the bathroom on the kayak? Do you bring a container, go in the ocean, or head back to land?

A lot depends on how you are dressed, your business at hand, what kind of kayak you have and where you are.
You can just piss in the scupperhole or the Mirage drive hole.
You used to be able to take a piece of Bull kelp, cut the ends and use it as a hose to direct your business.
If you are in a crowded family friendly area you can use a Little John like pictured below.
I can slide this into my drysuit, TCOB and no one knows.
The other order of business calls for a bit more creativity.
Just remember not to put yourself in a dangerous situation should you fall off the kayak.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: killbipp on September 09, 2019, 06:37:10 PM
The list is already long, and I’ve been doing this all of two weeks, but a neck gaiter seems like a top ten item for anyone who spends time on the water.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: adamhelm67 on December 01, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
The list is already long, and I’ve been doing this all of two weeks, but a neck gaiter seems like a top ten item for anyone who spends time on the water.

I wear them all of the time and found out the cheap ones simply are not that great. I don't need a skull face or anything like that. I finally found the best one at Simms. Has a great breathing hole so won't for up glasses. Synthetic fabric etc.... It is great and usually wear it for 4-7 hrs straight with no issues
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Waywardmanini on June 22, 2020, 09:32:04 AM
From an OG that can't swim,  new to kayaking. Thank you for all the great safety tips.  :smt006
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Sakana Seeker on June 22, 2020, 11:46:02 AM
How do people generally approach using the bathroom on the kayak? Do you bring a container, go in the ocean, or head back to land?

A lot depends on how you are dressed, your business at hand, what kind of kayak you have and where you are.
You can just piss in the scupperhole or the Mirage drive hole.
You used to be able to take a piece of Bull kelp, cut the ends and use it as a hose to direct your business.
If you are in a crowded family friendly area you can use a Little John like pictured below.
I can slide this into my drysuit, TCOB and no one knows.
The other order of business calls for a bit more creativity.
Just remember not to put yourself in a dangerous situation should you fall off the kayak.

It’s a well known fact that peeing in the mirage drive hole attracts the fish. Google it.  :smt044
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: BsHawk on June 22, 2020, 11:50:37 AM
How do people generally approach using the bathroom on the kayak? Do you bring a container, go in the ocean, or head back to land?

A lot depends on how you are dressed, your business at hand, what kind of kayak you have and where you are.
You can just piss in the scupperhole or the Mirage drive hole.
You used to be able to take a piece of Bull kelp, cut the ends and use it as a hose to direct your business.
If you are in a crowded family friendly area you can use a Little John like pictured below.
I can slide this into my drysuit, TCOB and no one knows.
The other order of business calls for a bit more creativity.
Just remember not to put yourself in a dangerous situation should you fall off the kayak.

It’s a well known fact that peeing in the mirage drive hole attracts the fish. Google it.  :smt044

I was wondering why I've been doing so well lately. 
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Waywardmanini on June 22, 2020, 12:43:21 PM
Haaa another great tip :smt003
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: SOMA on June 22, 2020, 03:13:24 PM
Depends on whether 1 or 2 . . . .
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: AirtoyzDrew on July 22, 2020, 04:17:42 PM
A big THANK YOU!!! to all who contributed!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: HGEric on November 05, 2020, 08:45:51 AM
Found a lot of great info here. Thank you for sharing guys.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Free Range Ginger on May 03, 2021, 07:01:19 PM
Great info here. One question: when you guys are saying farmer John’s, you’re just talking about the bottoms, right? My free dive suit has a farmer John bottoms and a hooded top. I tried wearing both my first time out and sweated my balls off.


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Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: tedski on May 03, 2021, 07:22:19 PM
Great info here. One question: when you guys are saying farmer John’s, you’re just talking about the bottoms, right? My free dive suit has a farmer John bottoms and a hooded top. I tried wearing both my first time out and sweated my balls off.


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Farmer Johns are sleeveless wetsuits.

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Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Free Range Ginger on May 04, 2021, 06:16:08 AM
Great info here. One question: when you guys are saying farmer John’s, you’re just talking about the bottoms, right? My free dive suit has a farmer John bottoms and a hooded top. I tried wearing both my first time out and sweated my balls off.


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Farmer Johns are sleeveless wetsuits.


Okay cool. That's what I was thinking. Thanks.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: pbb on March 13, 2022, 04:49:20 PM
Regarding the "Dramamine"

Take the "less drowsy" generic name Meclizine, aka Bonine (tm).

Apparently it can still cause drowsiness in some people, so you might want to test it out before your first trip and when you don't need to drive or operate heavy equipment.

For your actual fishing trip, take a dose the night before and then another when you get up in the AM.

And as far as keeping busy to avoid getting sicker, tying knots is a terrible idea because you are looking a something with a frame of reference which is moving with the swells (i.e., your eyes are telling your brain you aren't moving). Looking at a fixed point on the horizon is the best move when starting to get green around the gills. And if you have Gatorade, drink some, that can help, too.

Also I notice some people have a compass affixed to their yaks, which is fine, but I've got a small keychain sized one attached to a zipper pull on my PFD. If I go in and lose my yak, I want to be damn sure I am swimming in the right direction.

Someone mentioned a weather radio, every Marine VHF ever has weather radio channels, so just get a good submersible handheld VHF (and tie to your PFD, again you want it with you if you get separated from your yak).
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Seagrass on March 14, 2022, 05:50:53 AM
Thanks for starting this post. Some really great recommendations I hadn't even thought of before.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: Fishy247 on April 16, 2022, 12:49:11 PM
Yeah, I was kinda wondering about how to piss when you're wearing the Farmer Johns...

No problem when I was just wearing pants!
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: lir on April 16, 2022, 01:11:11 PM
Yeah, I was kinda wondering about how to piss when you're wearing the Farmer Johns...

No problem when I was just wearing pants!

Relief zipper .
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: papadriggs on April 28, 2023, 04:16:02 PM
Yeah, definitely the relief sipper for having to take a piss. I like to bring a beer or two with me so after couple hours two beers water, I usually have to piss a few times.
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: AlsHobieOutback on April 28, 2023, 04:40:03 PM
Yeah, definitely the relief sipper for having to take a piss. I like to bring a beer or two with me so after couple hours two beers water, I usually have to piss a few times.
Ah, love the energy of newbs.  :smt044
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: beerhunter on April 28, 2023, 04:53:15 PM
Yeah, definitely the relief sipper for having to take a piss. I like to bring a beer or two with me so after couple hours two beers water, I usually have to piss a few times.
Ah, love the energy of newbs.  :smt044


Beer!!!?
Title: Re: A sticky for ocean newbie questions?
Post by: essrigr on April 28, 2023, 06:11:44 PM
I wear kayak dry pants and went to the scuba store and got a pee valve, put it down by the ankle where the scupper hole is, easy solution, R.