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Kayak Fishing Zone => Safety First => Topic started by: piski on January 17, 2018, 03:45:29 PM

Title: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: piski on January 17, 2018, 03:45:29 PM
Reminder to kayak defensively!

https://nypost.com/2018/01/17/fisherman-sues-after-dramatic-boat-crash-caught-on-video/
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: newfuturevintage on January 17, 2018, 03:51:32 PM
Whoa.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: DRT Yakbah on January 17, 2018, 04:13:19 PM
Not an exact quote but the dumbass boat driver said he thought the lawsuit was bs because "they didn't get hurt too bad" :smt011
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: Hojoman on January 17, 2018, 04:51:43 PM
Not an exact quote but the dumbass boat driver said he thought the lawsuit was bs because "they didn't get hurt too bad" :smt011
Where did you read that?
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: NowhereMan on January 17, 2018, 04:57:13 PM
It's a miracle that nobody was killed.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: MooMoo Outdoors on January 17, 2018, 04:58:17 PM
That was close. I'm glad they were able to jump in the water before it was too late.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: crash on January 17, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
Not an exact quote but the dumbass boat driver said he thought the lawsuit was bs because "they didn't get hurt too bad" :smt011
Where did you read that?

In the Oregonian. And that is pretty much an exact quote.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/01/chilling_video_fisherman_jumps.html
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: Hojoman on January 17, 2018, 05:16:06 PM
Not an exact quote but the dumbass boat driver said he thought the lawsuit was bs because "they didn't get hurt too bad" :smt011
Where did you read that?

In the Oregonian. And that is pretty much an exact quote.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/01/chilling_video_fisherman_jumps.html
Thanks, Doug. And another PFD that did not inflate.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: Azkikr on January 17, 2018, 05:30:42 PM
What?! That is scary.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: Azkikr on January 17, 2018, 05:45:44 PM
https://youtu.be/ADSXNYtL-54

This one happen long lime ago. Brothers, be careful out there
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: crash on January 17, 2018, 05:59:07 PM
https://youtu.be/ADSXNYtL-54

This one happen long lime ago. Brothers, be careful out there

That is  Michael Rischer from Portland fishing on the Willamette.  Very active in the PNW kayak angling scene.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: SlackedTide on January 17, 2018, 06:00:16 PM
Yea that’s an easy win, you think that’s crazy go to bodega opening day for crab season. So many A-holes plowing through the jetty like no tomorrow.. I’m surprised there hasn’t been an incident yet .
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: CGN-38 on January 17, 2018, 08:06:24 PM
 :smt012
  WTH, the old geezer said "He couldn't see where he was driving because he was sitting down"  THEN he shouldn't have been moving forward if he wasn't able to watch the F where he was going! JHCOC! 
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: LinesideBountyHunter on January 17, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
that wouldnt have gone over well with a kayak. Leaping in the water wouldnt put you far enough away from danger and the pfd would keep you from diving beneath the prop
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: ex-kayaker on January 17, 2018, 10:13:00 PM
I'd drop the lawsuit if he let me run him and his scooter over with my truck. 

Anybody else think the son in law aint too fond of the old geezer.....seems like he threw his ass under the bus real quick with the phone distraction comment.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: FishingAddict on January 18, 2018, 07:49:20 AM
Watching the video makes me cringe. A few years my buddy almost got hit by a boat at HMB while salmon fishing outside the harbor.  The area was packed with kayakers and boaters.  The boat operator was in the back setting gear with a child and had the boat on auto pilot.  I yelled at my buddy on the radio to watch for out for the idiot and get out the way which he luckily did. 
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: LilRiverMan on January 18, 2018, 01:57:26 PM
He was sitting down. Sitting long enough to cover enough water that it was beyond his range of vision ? Sitting and going so fast it raises the bow of your boat, blocking your forward vision ? The video background looks like it's close to a harbor. High speed in a high traffic area?
Reminds me of that Grizzly Bear video that's going round. That Bear covered a lot of ground in a heartbeat before the hunter had to shoot it. That boat was going FAST.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: crash on January 18, 2018, 02:11:08 PM
He was sitting down. Sitting long enough to cover enough water that it was beyond his range of vision ? Sitting and going so fast it raises the bow of your boat, blocking your forward vision ? The video background looks like it's close to a harbor. High speed in a high traffic area?
Reminds me of that Grizzly Bear video that's going round. That Bear covered a lot of ground in a heartbeat before the hunter had to shoot it. That boat was going FAST.

It’s buoy 10 at the height of chinook season, near Astoria on the Columbia River.  Probably the most crowded fishery in the PNW.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: NowhereMan on January 18, 2018, 02:28:40 PM
He was sitting down. Sitting long enough to cover enough water that it was beyond his range of vision...

The article says the guy is 75 and uses a power scooter to get around on land. He never should have been driving that boat.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: SOMA on January 18, 2018, 02:53:42 PM
He was sitting down. Sitting long enough to cover enough water that it was beyond his range of vision...

The article says the guy is 75 and uses a power scooter to get around on land. He never should have been driving that boat.

Wow!  Not defending the power boat operator, however, why are seats installed in boats if not for sitting on?  Just because he uses a power scooter on land is not a reason to ban him from sitting on a boat seat.  Clearly the boat operator was operating well beyond his ability to operate a boat safely.  (I have coffee most mornings with an individual in a power joystick controlled wheelchair, hence my semi-defense of the boat operator and a 75 year old who build and operates outboards that will do over 100 mph and partakes in the Parker 300.)     
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: piski on January 18, 2018, 03:48:02 PM
I'd drop the lawsuit if he let me run him and his scooter over with my truck. 

Anybody else think the son in law aint too fond of the old geezer.....seems like he threw his ass under the bus real quick with the phone distraction comment.

Yes on both counts.

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Quote from: NowhereMan on Today at 02:28:40 PM

    The article says the guy is 75 and uses a power scooter to get around on land. He never should have been driving that boat.


Wow!  Not defending the power boat operator, however, why are seats installed in boats if not for sitting on?  Just because he uses a power scooter on land is not a reason to ban him from sitting on a boat seat.  Clearly the boat operator was operating well beyond his ability to operate a boat safely.  (I have coffee most mornings with an individual in a power joystick controlled wheelchair, hence my semi-defense of the boat operator and a 75 year old who build and operates outboards that will do over 100 mph and partakes in the Parker 300.)   

Have to agree with SOMA here; the guy's age and mobility issues aren't the problem. It's his f***ed up attitude and disregard for everyone else. 
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: NowhereMan on January 18, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
I'd drop the lawsuit if he let me run him and his scooter over with my truck. 

Anybody else think the son in law aint too fond of the old geezer.....seems like he threw his ass under the bus real quick with the phone distraction comment.

Yes on both counts.

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Quote from: NowhereMan on Today at 02:28:40 PM

    The article says the guy is 75 and uses a power scooter to get around on land. He never should have been driving that boat.


Wow!  Not defending the power boat operator, however, why are seats installed in boats if not for sitting on?  Just because he uses a power scooter on land is not a reason to ban him from sitting on a boat seat.  Clearly the boat operator was operating well beyond his ability to operate a boat safely.  (I have coffee most mornings with an individual in a power joystick controlled wheelchair, hence my semi-defense of the boat operator and a 75 year old who build and operates outboards that will do over 100 mph and partakes in the Parker 300.)   

Have to agree with SOMA here; the guy's age and mobility issues aren't the problem. It's his f***ed up attitude and disregard for everyone else.

OK, maybe should have said he should never have been driving that boat at that speed, 'cause from the video it sure looks like you'd have to be standing to see over the bow.
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: ex-kayaker on January 18, 2018, 08:06:17 PM
He was sitting down. Sitting long enough to cover enough water that it was beyond his range of vision...

The article says the guy is 75 and uses a power scooter to get around on land. He never should have been driving that boat.

Wow!  Not defending the power boat operator, however, why are seats installed in boats if not for sitting on?  Just because he uses a power scooter on land is not a reason to ban him from sitting on a boat seat.  Clearly the boat operator was operating well beyond his ability to operate a boat safely.  (I have coffee most mornings with an individual in a power joystick controlled wheelchair, hence my semi-defense of the boat operator and a 75 year old who build and operates outboards that will do over 100 mph and partakes in the Parker 300.)     


Different craft, if the operator has an obstructed view or the line of sight while on plane is angled well above the horizon while in a seated position then he should be standing to ensure safe operation. I rarely felt comfortable sitting in my 23' walk around, the bow rode high on plane and from the helm seat you couldn't see anything but the sky. You can sit in a bass boat (and likely your buddy's also) and do 70-100mph safely but thats whole different class of boat. Not saying anyone should be banned but if you can't operate safely it might be time to hand the wheel over.  I think this guy proved that he can't. 
Title: Re: Powerboater gets sued after plowing over smaller fishing boat
Post by: Eric B on January 19, 2018, 07:31:15 AM
The stuff of nightmares. 

I do feel that we kayakers can paddle out of the way very quickly, IF we see it coming.  It happened so quickly.