Another Promar TR-102W 5" Opening Modification

i have some 5" or 6" pvc if anyone is interested.  ill chopp em up when i get the saw

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You might want to hold off using 5" and especially 6" pvc until you do some tests. I think most crabs can get out of those openings. Might as well use hoop nets at that point.

not if they're blocked using rotton cotton.

im going to replace my rings, that i think are too small to comply with regs.

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I think you misread the regulations. According to page 50 of the ocean sport fishing regulations, https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=116558, you are still required to have the escape rings.

(c) Crab traps:
(1) Crab traps shall have at least two rigid circular openings of not less than four and one-quarter inches inside diameter so constructed that the lowest portion of each opening is no lower than five inches from the top of the trap.
(2) Starting August 1, 2016, crab traps shall contain at least one destruct device of a single strand of untreated cotton twine size No. 120 or less that creates an unobstructed escape opening in the top or upper half of the trap of at least five inches in diameter when the destruct attachment material corrodes or fails.

i have some 5" or 6" pvc if anyone is interested.  ill chopp em up when i get the saw

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You might want to hold off using 5" and especially 6" pvc until you do some tests. I think most crabs can get out of those openings. Might as well use hoop nets at that point.

not if they're blocked using rotton cotton.

im going to replace my rings, that i think are too small to comply with regs.

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You still need unobstructed escape rings. I recommend you try this method
instead. 

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=75441.msg860681#msg860681

 

Stick with the 5" perma opening and give them something delicious to feed on like stinky giant squids for bait.  That should keep them in there until they are served for dinner.
Sorry for threadjack Tim

Why not just have a PERMANENT 5" RING " in there.  My thinking is that when multiple numbers of crabs get in the trap, a majority of them will stay put.  Also gives you another 5" entry point for them to come in.

You're just saying that since you planted that seed in Bob's head in the first place 

 

krusty: Thanks for the clarification, i really forgot to think about the rings for small crabs to escape.

cdm: your idea sucks!


i like the use of my metal clips.  i think i will install a 6" ring on top.  use chicken wire to make a door for that ring with one hinged side. the other side would then be tied using cotton. when cotton fails, the chicken wire will swing down and open up.  what do you think?

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krusty: Thanks for the clarification, i really forgot to think about the rings for small crabs to escape.

cdm: your idea sucks!


i like the use of my metal clips.  i think i will install a 6" ring on top.  use chicken wire to make a door for that ring with one hinged side. the other side would then be tied using cotton. when cotton fails, the chicken wire will swing down and open up.  what do you think?

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Sucks!!!

krusty: Thanks for the clarification, i really forgot to think about the rings for small crabs to escape.

cdm: your idea sucks!


i like the use of my metal clips.  i think i will install a 6" ring on top.  use chicken wire to make a door for that ring with one hinged side. the other side would then be tied using cotton. when cotton fails, the chicken wire will swing down and open up.  what do you think?

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You should keep it simple and minimize the amount of changes, especially with moving parts. A much easier way to put a door on top of the trap is to make a 5" wide |_| shape cut in the netting, leaving the last side of the opening as the "hinge". Then tie the sides of the door to the rest of the netting with rotten cotton.

Keeping the original rings where they are on the Promar and just adding one 5 " ring on Top.
On the Danielson, taking out the ring and bending the Tabs to give a 5" opening and that should do it.  No need for twine.

i have some 5" or 6" pvc if anyone is interested.  ill chopp em up when i get the saw

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You might want to hold off using 5" and especially 6" pvc until you do some tests. I think most crabs can get out of those openings. Might as well use hoop nets at that point.

Brings up a question: Anybody out there tried hoops from a kayak. No Antonio, I don't mean hoop skirts. 
I thought I'd bring one to Anchor Bay next week and give it shot while fishing nearby.

;-D

i have some 5" or 6" pvc if anyone is interested.  ill chopp em up when i get the saw

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You might want to hold off using 5" and especially 6" pvc until you do some tests. I think most crabs can get out of those openings. Might as well use hoop nets at that point.

Brings up a question: Anybody out there tried hoops from a kayak. No Antonio, I don't mean hoop skirts. 
I thought I'd bring one to Anchor Bay next week and give it shot while fishing nearby.

;-D

i do. i actually prefer to use them since i get bored using traps with longer soaks.  I like running around from hoop to hoop a lot more. i use both the flat style hoops and the conical ones.  find they fish well for the shorter soaks i prefer (30 minutes each and lots of F'in pedaling)

Just as an FYI, I just ordered 2 Promar 102W's from Amazon, they came from different vendors, but both had 5" U shapes cut in the top and were laced closed with one strand of rotten cotton like Krusty was saying. So if you're looking to buy new, they may come already modified.