NorCal Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing Zone => General Fishing Tips => Topic started by: Widgeon on March 08, 2018, 08:30:13 AM
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I know I may be a little bit late to the party, but has anyone here ever heard of or tried "slow-pitch" rock fishing? It's a technique from Japan that uses specific rods and jigs that (supposedly) produce an action fish love. Thinking about buying a few of the jigs, anybody have any luck with them?
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I admit had to look this technique up on youtube. I don't see why it can't work out here. Looks like it could be deadly on lings!
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Couple guys do it on the boats out of Avila and score some nice catches.
Check out Daiwa.Warrior on you tube.. Guy does it for everything from bass to yellowtails.
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Google Kil Song or Black Hole slow pitch.
I have a pretty sick set-up, but rockfish and lings are stupid and you don't really need to fool 'em with the slow pitch.
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Pretty cool. Thanks for posting.
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... lings are stupid and you don't really need to fool 'em with the slow pitch.
True. I mean, they can be caught with copper pipes, wrenches, etc. Pretty much anything with a hook in it.
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... lings are stupid and you don't really need to fool 'em with the slow pitch.
True. I mean, they can be caught with copper pipes, wrenches, etc. Pretty much anything with a hook in it.
I can top that... I caught a lingcod on a sinker onceno hook involved.
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I've been using my Japanese slow pitch rod the last 2 years. Really fun fighting lings on the noodle rod.
What I like about them is when I'm trolling, the rod bounces nicely that gives my lures a nice action.
Just bought a Tsunami Trophy for Xmas, can't wait to try them this coming season.
https://www.jandh.com/products/tsunami-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html
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It's a ton of fun. I started last year. I'm didtributing slow pitch rods and reels by truscend. Pretty amazing how light and powerful they are. I'll never go back.
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Just bought a Tsunami Trophy for Xmas, can't wait to try them this coming season.
https://www.jandh.com/products/tsunami-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html
Me too ;)
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It's a ton of fun. I started last year. I'm didtributing slow pitch rods and reels by truscend. Pretty amazing how light and powerful they are. I'll never go back.
Sounds interesting. I found info on the web. How do you rig up the hooks on your jigs? The picture I saw had two hooks at each end.
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Would love a blackhole jigging rod. Theyre so damn sexxy...lol
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Yes they are awesome Rods . And now thats all I use for Jigging . They super light and balance too. I bought two rods from EBay imported from Japan . Poseidon slow jerker PSLJ 603-4 and PSLJ 603-6 ..
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Yes they are awesome Rods . And now thats all I use for Jigging . They super light and balance too. I bought two rods from EBay imported from Japan . Poseidon slow jerker PSLJ 603-4 and PSLJ 603-6 ..
Gotta say, thanks to kuya Don! For introducing me to the slow pitch rod.
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It's a ton of fun. I started last year. I'm didtributing slow pitch rods and reels by truscend. Pretty amazing how light and powerful they are. I'll never go back.
Sounds interesting. I found info on the web. How do you rig up the hooks on your jigs? The picture I saw had two hooks at each end.
I really like the two assist hooks at the bottom. I used that on my 4oz octopus and personal slow pitch jigs i did for myself. Like the one's shimano uses on their slow pitch flat fall jig. I only used the one mackerel jig in 6oz for the last 3 or 4 trips. The fish hit the jig when rod straightens itself. Caught 100 percent of the fish at the top of the pitch.
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I still use a few different techniques. Mainly I jig, fish my octopus, and use a tube bait. I'll never go back to using normal rods and reels for rick fish. Slow pitch is ultra light and ultra powreful. That equals fun. I hooked a 10 lb ling by the tail last year on a slow pitch set-up. The rod isn't bigger than my trout gear. It really handled that fish with ease. It also takes a while to realize how powerful the rods are because they're deceiving. I would go with a 2 to 6 oz setup first.
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It's a ton of fun. I started last year. I'm didtributing slow pitch rods and reels by truscend. Pretty amazing how light and powerful they are. I'll never go back.
Sounds interesting. I found info on the web. How do you rig up the hooks on your jigs? The picture I saw had two hooks at each end.
I really like the two assist hooks at the bottom. I used that on my 4oz octopus and personal slow pitch jigs i did for myself. Like the one's shimano uses on their slow pitch flat fall jig. I only used the one mackerel jig in 6oz for the last 3 or 4 trips. The fish hit the jig when rod straightens itself. Caught 100 percent of the fish at the top of the pitch.
So you go with hooks only on one end? I was thinking about maybe a treble at each end.
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It's a ton of fun. I started last year. I'm didtributing slow pitch rods and reels by truscend. Pretty amazing how light and powerful they are. I'll never go back.
Sounds interesting. I found info on the web. How do you rig up the hooks on your jigs? The picture I saw had two hooks at each end.
I really like the two assist hooks at the bottom. I used that on my 4oz octopus and personal slow pitch jigs i did for myself. Like the one's shimano uses on their slow pitch flat fall jig. I only used the one mackerel jig in 6oz for the last 3 or 4 trips. The fish hit the jig when rod straightens itself. Caught 100 percent of the fish at the top of the pitch.
So you go with hooks only on one end? I was thinking about maybe a treble at each end.
That's a great idea if you want to buy a million jigs lol. The two assist hooks at the bottom work amazingly.
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It's a ton of fun. I started last year. I'm didtributing slow pitch rods and reels by truscend. Pretty amazing how light and powerful they are. I'll never go back.
Sounds interesting. I found info on the web. How do you rig up the hooks on your jigs? The picture I saw had two hooks at each end.
I really like the two assist hooks at the bottom. I used that on my 4oz octopus and personal slow pitch jigs i did for myself. Like the one's shimano uses on their slow pitch flat fall jig. I only used the one mackerel jig in 6oz for the last 3 or 4 trips. The fish hit the jig when rod straightens itself. Caught 100 percent of the fish at the top of the pitch.
So you go with hooks only on one end? I was thinking about maybe a treble at each end.
That's a great idea if you want to buy a million jigs lol. The two assist hooks at the bottom work amazingly.
Ok. I got the idea they were designed to work with hooks at each end. Thanks.
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Just bought a Tsunami Trophy for Xmas, can't wait to try them this coming season.
https://www.jandh.com/products/tsunami-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html
Me too ;)
Same here..😀 I want one too.
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What kind or reel are you matching to that rod?
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This forum messes me up...now I gotta study slow pitch for Hali's and spend some cash on a little more new gear. Jigs...setups...rod....seems kinda like a super bendo adventure. Thanks ya'all for exposing such a variety of techniques to mix things up... :smt006
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...now I gotta study slow pitch for Hali's ...
That sounds like a plan!
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
Nice, now I gotta jump...
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
Good luck!
Imho, that's a big reel you ordered. I use the komodo SS 300 series so it's lighter.
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... lings are stupid and you don't really need to fool 'em with the slow pitch.
True. I mean, they can be caught with copper pipes, wrenches, etc. Pretty much anything with a hook in it.
I can top that... I caught a lingcod on a sinker onceno hook involved.
I caught one on the nib of a washdown hose hanging through a boats rear scupper hole.
Bushy no lie
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
From what I read, inches of retrieve per turn is important. That one had the most of the reels I saw in my price range. Well see. If I was buying them in person I might have downsized.
Good luck!
Imho, that's a big reel you ordered. I use the komodo SS 300 series so it's lighter.
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
After looking a little more I realized I wanted to start with a rod built for heavier lures. I switched to the Tsunami TSSPJC-701XH which covers 2-7 oz. it seems like a better all around choice.
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
After looking a little more I realized I wanted to start with a rod built for heavier lures. I switched to the Tsunami TSSPJC-701XH which covers 2-7 oz. it seems like a better all around choice.
Im with ya', I think I'm settling for the 68heavy but i'm debating a shorter rod because of long fall technique vs. slow pitch. We do not have spankered boats here so I have to deal with drift and current and wind.
http://www.anglers-secrets.com/long-fall-technique-is-more-versatile/
I probably won't get too detailed about all this but I may go nuts for a while. Whatever it takes to stay vertical is a key component. I have to match the weight of the jig to the conditions....while I'm throwing up the whole time...hopefully not... :smt005 :smt006
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On top of that I think it can get pretty complicated with rod and lure combinations giving stronger or weaker upswing on the tip. It doesn't help that some rods are rated with numbers instead of lure weight ranges.
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On top of that I think it can get pretty complicated with rod and lure combinations giving stronger or weaker upswing on the tip. It doesn't help that some rods are rated with numbers instead of lure weight ranges.
Yes, I read that the lure weights are not as applicable as the specs. With the amount of strength in these rods, something really has to go wrong to break one, yet I want the proper flutter. The challenge is moving the jig at all in certain conditions. That is why I wish I would afford a 6'5 heavy. What is 3 or 6" difference. It has to do with the arc of the jerk. The shorter rod allows for more versatile tweaks and tricks with the jerk and the reel crank. Pitch I believe means one full crank on the reel.
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On top of that I think it can get pretty complicated with rod and lure combinations giving stronger or weaker upswing on the tip. It doesn't help that some rods are rated with numbers instead of lure weight ranges.
Yes, I read that the lure weights are not as applicable as the specs. With the amount of strength in these rods, something really has to go wrong to break one, yet I want the proper flutter. The challenge is moving the jig at all in certain conditions. That is why I wish I would afford a 6'5 heavy. What is 3 or 6" difference. It has to do with the arc of the jerk. The shorter rod allows for more versatile tweaks and tricks with the jerk and the reel crank. Pitch I believe means the flutter part.
Wrap around guides helps a lot in tangles while you're jigging. The Tsunami slow pitch rod may be a great bang for the buck for this feature. I say this because I haven't tried it out in real life fishing yet.
Just like any rod the lure weight rating is just a guide.
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On top of that I think it can get pretty complicated with rod and lure combinations giving stronger or weaker upswing on the tip. It doesn't help that some rods are rated with numbers instead of lure weight ranges.
Yes, I read that the lure weights are not as applicable as the specs. With the amount of strength in these rods, something really has to go wrong to break one, yet I want the proper flutter. The challenge is moving the jig at all in certain conditions. That is why I wish I would afford a 6'5 heavy. What is 3 or 6" difference. It has to do with the arc of the jerk. The shorter rod allows for more versatile tweaks and tricks with the jerk and the reel crank. Pitch I believe means the flutter part.
Wrap around guides helps a lot in tangles while you're jigging. The Tsunami slow pitch rod may be a great bang for the buck for this feature. I say this because I haven't tried it out in real life fishing yet.
Just like any rod the lure weight rating is just a guide.
Yes. And it seems you may want a heavy lure on a light rod one day and that afternoon or the next day a heavy lure on a heavy rod or a light lure on a heavy rod. You will get different action from the lure depending on the combination, not to mention different lure styles. I guess I better make a 6 rod holder now! :smt044
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On the way...
http://www.jiggingworld.com/jigging-world-ghost-hunter-slow-pitch-150g-spinning-jigging-rod/
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On the way...
http://www.jiggingworld.com/jigging-world-ghost-hunter-slow-pitch-150g-spinning-jigging-rod/
I have rod envy...
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On the way...
http://www.jiggingworld.com/jigging-world-ghost-hunter-slow-pitch-150g-spinning-jigging-rod/
I have rod envy...
Ordered the conventional model. If it does not produce the results I desire, I will have to make you an offer that you cannot refuse...
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Very interesting. Trend...fad...here we are again...and late I must admit for me...all the vids from Japan on youtube are 2015 so the materials have improved...carbon fiber and all...I'm sure, over the centuries, everything has been done...always looking for something new...it's a trick of discontent... :smt005 :smt006
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"We talkin about rockfish?! I mean, ROCKFISH?!"
-Allen Iverson
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"We talkin about rockfish?! I mean, ROCKFISH?!"
-Allen Iverson
^^^^
Right ?! LOL .
My lofty goal is to jig up a halibut and attempt an experiment trolling or mooching for salmon with it, both species are parabolic rod types.
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"We talkin about rockfish?! I mean, ROCKFISH?!"
-Allen Iverson
^^^^
Right ?! LOL .
My lofty goal is to jig up a halibut and attempt an experiment trolling or mooching for salmon with it, both species are parabolic rod types.
Just funnin' Eddie , if there's anyone who's gonna do it, it'll probably be you. You got the Mojo and you research your quarry well . :smt001
I get it...all this tech and technique for a fish that will strike a rock. You know, gotta satisfy and justify the purchase. Personally I'm a live bait guy so this is all variety for learning sake. Maybe I could write it all off on my taxes under ongoing education... :smt005 :smt006
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
Agreed. I'll stick to my little spinner with 12lb test for light line RCG.
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Just bought a Tsunami Trophy for Xmas, can't wait to try them this coming season.
https://www.jandh.com/products/tsunami-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html
Me too ;)
Same here..😀 I want one too.
I am gonna order one when my tax
refund arrives. :smt003
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
I'm going to try it because it's supposed to be less work. One crank or less on the reel instead of lifting the pole to move the lure. That sounds easier to me.
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
I'm going to try it because it's supposed to be less work. One crank or less on the reel instead of lifting the pole to move the lure. That sounds easier to me.
Yes the rod is so light, and the reel does the work, plus other depth factors involved.
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
I'm going to try it because it's supposed to be less work. One crank or less on the reel instead of lifting the pole to move the lure. That sounds easier to me.
Yes the rod is so light, and the reel does the work, plus other depth factors involved.
The slow pitch rods is like fighting the fish with a Kokanee rod except it has more backbone. Definitely a lot of fun.
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I decided on the Okuma KDS 463-PLX for $242 delivered after 10% coupon. I also chose the Tsunami TSSP JC-661MH for $70 delivered. Now I need some tackle. Any suggestions on where to order? Im going to try this on some mackinaw too.
https://www.fishingeureka.com/shop/fishing-rods/tsunami-tsspjc-661mh-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods/
https://www.jandh.com/products/okuma-komodo-ss-baitcasting-reels-kds-463plx.html
I got the reel. Here is a photo of it next to my 300. It is bigger. I use the 300 for sturgeon. I guess if the 463 is too big I can swap them.
Good luck!
Imho, that's a big reel you ordered. I use the komodo SS 300 series so it's lighter.
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I found some info on rod selection on this Facebook page.
January 26 ·
Updated my article a little bit.
The rod specs say which jig weight range the rod is the most suitable. But this is just a little indication of the rod action tone. You should not think this is specifically the jig weight you are supposed to use. In reality, jig weigh is not the only factor that the rod works against for actions. Lets say you move a 500g jig at 3 meters deep. Any rod model can give actions to that jig, as you can imagine. The water resistance factors are very big and theres no way to indicate that.
So where does that indication come from?
Slow Jerker.
Sato Sensei established slow pitch jigging with this rod. He wanted several action tones and created 3 rods, 603-3, 603-4, and 603-6.
So, what we have to understand is that the lineup was designed under the most common fishing conditions in Japan, which are, about 50m to 100m depth, on the controlled drift by the spanker, the jig weight range from 100g to 300g. In this range of condition, the typical rod action tones have been rated by 4 classes. Power 3, 4, 5, and 6. It just happens to be like that. Sato Sensei just wanted the softest action tone of 603-3 and this rod power felt to Evergreen like a 3oz jig weight rating (in their conventional jigging rod rating), so it was named 603-3.
As slow pitch jigging grows, Power 5 model 603-5 was added to fill the gap, Power 2 and 1.5 was added since people found fun with the super light rod playing in the calm, shallow conditions, then lately as we go deeper to 200m+ waters with heavy jigs, High Pitch Jerker Light 606L-4 has just been added. When you look at latest Deepliner Logical lineup, they have Power 0 to Power 8. It means that the jigging field has been getting bigger and deeper.
So, the number really doesn't matter, and of course jig weight rating doesn't matter. The typical jigging condition (vertical, 50m to 100m) can be tactically played by 4 different action tones. Slow Jerker set the standard and pretty much every other manufactures are following the standard.
But for outside Japan, you have to translate this into your fishing condition. Especially for staying vertical part. As far as I know, there are no spankered boat outside Japan, with only a few exceptions. Free-drifting mostly. Some do fishing with sea-anchor. Some control drift by going aft.
Depending on how NOT vertical, you should use heavier rod and heavier jig weight than us at the same depth. (Generally speaking of course, as the situation varies drastically by the weather conditions.)
When people ask me what rod model to get for their first slow pitch rod, I hardly recommend Power 3 rod no matter what depth you are fishing. At least Power 4. Power 2 or 1.5 are out of question. I don't know why they are selling them outside Japan.
Remember, at 3 meters deep, any rod can dance any jig weight. Jig weight is not the issue. Don't get caught on the rod specs.
How vertical are you? is the question.
Even if we are vertical on the spankered boat, sometimes the water is heavy because of double layered current and we choose to use one higher power rod, increase jig weight, and/or use lighter line. Slow pitch jigging is the game to enjoy these tactics.
http://www.anglers-secrets.com/rods-and-reels/
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Thank you for that. The rod you got may be just perfect. Mine, a little light but I will not be fishing any deeper than 100ft as far as I know. Just trying to determine what jigs to buy. Two types, S and R...weight? 3oz. to 6oz I suspect. Thought about making them$$ in the short run. "Keep it vertical" let's make some tshirts... :smt006
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
I'm going to try it because it's supposed to be less work. One crank or less on the reel instead of lifting the pole to move the lure. That sounds easier to me.
It's much easier. The rod does the fighting for you and they're super light.
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Thank you for that. The rod you got may be just perfect. Mine, a little light but I will not be fishing any deeper than 100ft as far as I know. Just trying to determine what jigs to buy. Two types, S and R...weight? 3oz. to 6oz I suspect. Thought about making them$$ in the short run. "Keep it vertical" let's make some tshirts... :smt006
I like that T-shirt idea! :smt003. I may have gone a little heavy but it will be good for faster drift and heavier lures I hope. I might get another one a little lighter for slow drift days.
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I missed rod delivery yesterday so I gotta go to the post office and pick it up. I made some jig decisions and am pleased so far. Moving two hooks to front and waiting on my black anchovy jigs. 3oz and 4oz, maybe 2oz and 4, I forget...If I got that rod yesterday and had the anchovy jigs I would jig for Hali's tomorrow in the bay but I am trying another sturgeon round. Big mackerel is 150 grams 5.5 oz
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Those are very nice lures. I went to His tackle and looked on the Tsunami Slow Pitch rod and looks like a very good baitcast jigging rod
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"Keep it vertical" let's make some tshirts... :smt006
This is a design from a friend on the Big Island
Hes got a good vlog on YouTube
SkysDaily808
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Too much work for RFs :smt005 doing the slow pitch/jig stuff.
I'm going to try it because it's supposed to be less work. One crank or less on the reel instead of lifting the pole to move the lure. That sounds easier to me.
It's much easier. The rod does the fighting for you and they're super light.
Famous Last Words!
Looks to me like the plus really is in lure presentation, but the minus is in retrieving the fish. You can short stroke any conventional rod.
bushy
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"Keep it vertical" let's make some tshirts... :smt006
This is a design from a friend on the Big Island
Hes got a good vlog on YouTube
SkysDaily808
Sweet...hawaiian style...
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Spiral wrapped strangeness of technology.
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Acid wrapped... cool cool.
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Eddie Scores BIG!!!!!! :smt003
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Looks to me like the plus really is in lure presentation, but the minus is in retrieving the fish. You can short stroke any conventional rod.
bushy
+1.
This article claims that once you hook a fish, you should point the rod down and fight it just using the reel:
http://goose.com/2017/07/17/an-introduction-to-slow-pitch-jigging/
It might be kind of annoying to hook the fish of a lifetime and then have nothing but a wet noodle to fight it.
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Looks to me like the plus really is in lure presentation, but the minus is in retrieving the fish. You can short stroke any conventional rod.
bushy
+1.
This article claims that once you hook a fish, you should point the rod down and fight it just using the reel:
http://goose.com/2017/07/17/an-introduction-to-slow-pitch-jigging/
It might be kind of annoying to hook the fish of a lifetime and then have nothing but a wet noodle to fight it.
Rod in hand, it has a strength that I cannot explain...not as noodly as I expected...kinda supernatural I think :smt005....this vid impresses, it is the same strength, less 11", which may have made the difference, as the one I bought and I am now super sold... :smt006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpBS5sCceHQ
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Guess I'll have to try one. 200+# Pac halibut is sort of convincing.
Bushy
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Guess I'll have to try one. 200+# Pac halibut is sort of convincing.
Bushy
I'll bring my Black Hole slow pitch rod on our 8-day trip, Bushy!
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Guess I'll have to try one. 200+# Pac halibut is sort of convincing.
Bushy
I'll bring my Black Hole slow pitch rod on our 8-day trip, Bushy!
Dang, gold standard, good stuff :smt006
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Guess I'll have to try one. 200+# Pac halibut is sort of convincing.
Bushy
I'll bring my Black Hole slow pitch rod on our 8-day trip, Bushy!
Dang, gold standard, good stuff :smt006
Thanks! I picked it up at the Fred Hall Show last year. Black Hole Cape Cod Slow Pitch B632H2MF. I also picked up a BH Challenger Bank C801HS Conventional (Acid Wrapped) and a BH Challenger Bank S801H Spinning rod. Kil Song is a cool ass dude and I'm highly considering going on a slow pitch jigging trip to Alaska with him next year.
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Kil is the second angler in the video posted above.
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Guess I'll have to try one. 200+# Pac halibut is sort of convincing.
Bushy
I'll bring my Black Hole slow pitch rod on our 8-day trip, Bushy!
Dang, gold standard, good stuff :smt006
Thanks! I picked it up at the Fred Hall Show last year. Black Hole Cape Cod Slow Pitch B632H2MF. I also picked up a BH Challenger Bank C801HS Conventional (Acid Wrapped) and a BH Challenger Bank S801H Spinning rod. Kil Song is a cool ass dude and I'm highly considering going on a slow pitch jigging trip to Alaska with him next year.
Dang, those Kil Songs and black holes are out of my league by far price wise... but there is always another birthday, we hope, wait..... Father's day is coming up....nah just kiddin'. Honestly not for bait fishing but I would like to catch my 3rd sturgeon on it and get a feel for parabolic heaven on earth. :smt006
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Looks to me like the plus really is in lure presentation, but the minus is in retrieving the fish. You can short stroke any conventional rod.
bushy
+1.
This article claims that once you hook a fish, you should point the rod down and fight it just using the reel:
http://goose.com/2017/07/17/an-introduction-to-slow-pitch-jigging/
It might be kind of annoying to hook the fish of a lifetime and then have nothing but a wet noodle to fight it.
Rod in hand, it has a strength that I cannot explain...not as noodly as I expected...kinda supernatural I think :smt005....this vid impresses, it is the same strength, less 11", which may have made the difference, as the one I bought and I am now super sold... :smt006
That is impressive!
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I ordered the 7ft to move around the bow better. I am tired of spectra wrapping around the rod tip while jigging. I am stoked to try my first spiral wrapped rod. :smt003
http://www.jiggingworld.com/tsunami-trophy-70-heavy-conventional-slow-pitch-jigging-rod/
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I added this Bossna BS Monster recently to my collection. Tempted to get this one too :smt001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIEdr1sYZuU
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I ordered the 7ft to move around the bow better. I am tired of spectra wrapping around the rod tip while jigging. I am stoked to try my first spiral wrapped rod. :smt003
http://www.jiggingworld.com/tsunami-trophy-70-heavy-conventional-slow-pitch-jigging-rod/
Sweet!
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Best deal I've found online
https://www.leisurepro.com/p-tsutjsr70/tsunami-trophy-jigging-boat-rods-70-50-100-pounds?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqM3VBRCwARIsAKcekb03figd3afdQtYGL0tKEbFfQW4rZAozuC3uuKFlc_co3PwYZ-k1YvEaAvDNEALw_wcB&kwid=productads-adid^228662146443-device^m-plaid^296303633664-sku^TSUTJSR70@ADL4LP-adType^PLA
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You guys really are getting into this light tackle big fight system.kicks leg up :beer2 :happy1:
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You guys really are getting into this light tackle big fight system.kicks leg up :beer2 :happy1:
If we get into a good school of YT or smaller YFT, I'm hoping to get some with my slow pitch set-up on our 8 day trip this year.
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I ended up casting my slow pitch rod pretty well from a pier today hoping for a diamondback. Certainly not designed for casting but got it out there.
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I ended up casting my slow pitch rod pretty well from a pier today hoping for a diamondback. Certainly not designed for casting but got it out there.
What reel did you go with? I just measured the line retrieve of my Komodo 364 with 100 ft out and it was down to about 67 cm. The goal is supposed to be keep it above 75 cm. My 463 might make that. Where did you buy your lures?
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I ended up casting my slow pitch rod pretty well from a pier today hoping for a diamondback. Certainly not designed for casting but got it out there.
What reel did you go with? I just measured the line retrieve of my Komodo 364 with 100 ft out and it was down to about 67 cm. The goal is supposed to be keep it above 75 cm. My 463 might make that. Where did you buy your lures?
The butterfly jugs are from amazon 4 are Shimano and 2 are reeldiculous. My reel is a siegler sgn at 38" per crank. :smt006
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I ended up casting my slow pitch rod pretty well from a pier today hoping for a diamondback. Certainly not designed for casting but got it out there.
What reel did you go with? I just measured the line retrieve of my Komodo 364 with 100 ft out and it was down to about 67 cm. The goal is supposed to be keep it above 75 cm. My 463 might make that. Where did you buy your lures?
The butterfly jugs are from amazon 4 are Shimano and 2 are reeldiculous. My reel is a siegler sgn at 38" per crank. :smt006
I got a lighter rod and went with the Avet SXJ 6/4 LH. It has 36 retrieve but its not really much lighter that the Komodo 463. Well see how I like the lever drag though.
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I ended up casting my slow pitch rod pretty well from a pier today hoping for a diamondback. Certainly not designed for casting but got it out there.
What reel did you go with? I just measured the line retrieve of my Komodo 364 with 100 ft out and it was down to about 67 cm. The goal is supposed to be keep it above 75 cm. My 463 might make that. Where did you buy your lures?
The butterfly jugs are from amazon 4 are Shimano and 2 are reeldiculous. My reel is a siegler sgn at 38" per crank. :smt006
I got a lighter rod and went with the Avet SXJ 6/4 LH. It has 36 retrieve but its not really much lighter that the Komodo 463. Well see how I like the lever drag though.
Good choice, 3ft per crank is plenty... :smt006
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You guys really are getting into this light tackle big fight system.kicks leg up :beer2 :happy1:
If we get into a good school of YT or smaller YFT, I'm hoping to get some with my slow pitch set-up on our 8 day trip this year.
youll get em for sure, Im content with my trevala S and tranx setup. Got a teramar west coast that I need to load up on a bigger beefy tranx. Be sure to pack some aleve and salonpas lol
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Andy1976 lets see a picture of your setups when you can please? Alconite Fuji guides and carbon fiber??
Are they like these?
Thx, Amos
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OK so I'm new to slow pitch and a lot of what you guys are saying is Greek to me
But I want to get a set up together. I'm thinking of the Siegler SGN paired with the tsunami trophy 7' in medium. I'll mostly be targeting lings and cabezon.....any recommendations would be appreciated. :smt001
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http://www.anglers-secrets.com/slow-jerker-or-longfall-jerker/
For me I would get the 6'8" heavy conventional
http://www.jiggingworld.com/tsunami-trophy-slow-pitch-jigging-rods/
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OK so I'm new to slow pitch and a lot of what you guys are saying is Greek to me
But I want to get a set up together. I'm thinking of the Siegler SGN paired with the tsunami trophy 7' in medium. I'll mostly be targeting lings and cabezon.....any recommendations would be appreciated. :smt001
From what Ive read you dont want to go too light on the rod. Its mandatory that you fish vertical for the lure to work correctly. The more drift the more weight you need to stay vertical. So pick a rod suited to the weight youll need when fishing. Also take a look at the Avet SXJ 6/4 reel.
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youll get em for sure, Im content with my trevala S and tranx setup. Got a teramar west coast that I need to load up on a bigger beefy tranx. Be sure to pack some aleve and salonpas lol
Haha! We got into a school of 15-20lb YT on the 10 day trip I was on last October. I caught a few on the dropper loop then wanted to switch over to my slow pitch set-up, but by the time I got everything rigged up the bite had died down and I only got a quick bump on one of my drops before we moved to go hunt cows.
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today. Conditions were windy 15 mph + and fast drift. Depth was 30 to 60 ft. I had a 5.5 oz chrome jig with teaser shrimp fly up top. Bouncing the jig was smooth and required less effort compared to my Phenix Inshore. I matched it with an Abu Garcia Toro 50 with regular handles. Next time I am going to switch to a power handle on the Abu. The rod does not cast as far but very to easy vertical jig. No more spectra wraps on the rod tip with the acid wrap.
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Rockfish season is open ......😲
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Wow! :smt007
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Nice haul, Mel!
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today. Conditions were windy 15 mph + and fast drift. Depth was 30 to 60 ft. I had a 5.5 oz chrome jig with teaser shrimp fly up top. Bouncing the jig was smooth and required less effort compared to my Phenix Inshore. I matched it with an Abu Garcia Toro 50 with regular handles. Next time I am going to switch to a power handle on the Abu. The rod does not cast as far but very to easy vertical jig. No more spectra wraps on the rod tip with the acid wrap.
Were the hooks at the head? What type of jig? Did you drop back down after a few cranks? Was there a certain depth that was a sweet spot? Did you full pitch or half or long fall or just go for it? Anykine way... :smt006
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today. Conditions were windy 15 mph + and fast drift. Depth was 30 to 60 ft. I had a 5.5 oz chrome jig with teaser shrimp fly up top. Bouncing the jig was smooth and required less effort compared to my Phenix Inshore. I matched it with an Abu Garcia Toro 50 with regular handles. Next time I am going to switch to a power handle on the Abu. The rod does not cast as far but very to easy vertical jig. No more spectra wraps on the rod tip with the acid wrap.
Were the hooks at the head? What type of jig? Did you drop back down after a few cranks? Was there a certain depth that was a sweet spot? Did you full pitch or half or long fall or just go for it? Anykine way... :smt006
Hook is a single siwash at the bottom. You can see the jig on the left side of the picture. Its a chrome metal jig I got at ebay. I did good old vertical bottom jigging by banging metal on the rocks. I casted out and ahead at the direction I was drifting. When the jig hit bottom I'd start jigging it towards me. When the line is no longer vertical retrieved it and cast over again. I stayed between 30 to 60 ft because the drift was fast and I can stay at the bottom longer.
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today.
Nice haul, Mel. Of course, I'd be surprised to see you with anything less.
Y'all are really selling this slow-pitch business. Anyone have negative reviews to share before I jump on the bandwagon?
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today.
Nice haul, Mel. Of course, I'd be surprised to see you with anything less.
Y'all are really selling this slow-pitch business. Anyone have negative reviews to share before I jump on the bandwagon?
Thanks for compliment. My Tsumani rod does not have a hook keeper and a butt cap. I went to the hardware store for a diy butt cap.
Other than its really well priced.
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today. Conditions were windy 15 mph + and fast drift. Depth was 30 to 60 ft. I had a 5.5 oz chrome jig with teaser shrimp fly up top. Bouncing the jig was smooth and required less effort compared to my Phenix Inshore. I matched it with an Abu Garcia Toro 50 with regular handles. Next time I am going to switch to a power handle on the Abu. The rod does not cast as far but very to easy vertical jig. No more spectra wraps on the rod tip with the acid wrap.
Were the hooks at the head? What type of jig? Did you drop back down after a few cranks? Was there a certain depth that was a sweet spot? Did you full pitch or half or long fall or just go for it? Anykine way... :smt006
Hook is a single siwash at the bottom. You can see the jig on the left side of the picture. Its a chrome metal jig I got at ebay. I did good old vertical bottom jigging by banging metal on the rocks. I casted out and ahead at the direction I was drifting. When the jig hit bottom I'd start jigging it towards me. When the line is no longer vertical retrieved it and cast over again. I stayed between 30 to 60 ft because the drift was fast and I can stay at the bottom longer.
I'm imagining paddle kayak having more difficulty staying vertical, was the peddling aspect super essential for your maneuvering to stay vertical?
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Field tested my Tsunami TSSPJ C 701H today. Conditions were windy 15 mph + and fast drift. Depth was 30 to 60 ft. I had a 5.5 oz chrome jig with teaser shrimp fly up top. Bouncing the jig was smooth and required less effort compared to my Phenix Inshore. I matched it with an Abu Garcia Toro 50 with regular handles. Next time I am going to switch to a power handle on the Abu. The rod does not cast as far but very to easy vertical jig. No more spectra wraps on the rod tip with the acid wrap.
Were the hooks at the head? What type of jig? Did you drop back down after a few cranks? Was there a certain depth that was a sweet spot? Did you full pitch or half or long fall or just go for it? Anykine way... :smt006
Hook is a single siwash at the bottom. You can see the jig on the left side of the picture. Its a chrome metal jig I got at ebay. I did good old vertical bottom jigging by banging metal on the rocks. I casted out and ahead at the direction I was drifting. When the jig hit bottom I'd start jigging it towards me. When the line is no longer vertical retrieved it and cast over again. I stayed between 30 to 60 ft because the drift was fast and I can stay at the bottom longer.
I'm imagining paddle kayak having more difficulty staying vertical, was the peddling aspect super essential for your maneuvering to stay vertical?
Yes pedaling sure helps.
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Stinking black friday...got 15% off on new rod because I lost one to the ocean this salmon season. Went with the same ghost hunter slow pitch rod and upped the specs to 300g jig weight 5'8" length and had them switch the spiral wrap for a lefty reel. Look out guys, gonna slay those 4lb rockfish like a boss... :smt006
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Stinking black friday...got 15% off on new rod because I lost one to the ocean this salmon season. Went with the same ghost hunter slow pitch rod and upped the specs to 300g jig weight 5'8" length and had them switch the spiral wrap for a lefty reel. Look out guys, gonna slay those 4lb rockfish like a boss... :smt006
heard Lingzilla calling ur number..
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Stinking black friday...got 15% off on new rod because I lost one to the ocean this salmon season. Went with the same ghost hunter slow pitch rod and upped the specs to 300g jig weight 5'8" length and had them switch the spiral wrap for a lefty reel. Look out guys, gonna slay those 4lb rockfish like a boss... :smt006
heard Lingzilla calling ur number..
I'm scared, gotta pound the bottom with a 12oz head, or 3/4oz depending on the fish. Going vertical in the drift, while on meclazine... :smt005 :smt006
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I'm scared, gotta pound the bottom with a 12oz head, or 3/4oz depending on the fish. Going vertical in the drift, while on meclazine... :smt005 :smt006
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haha! git em
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Maybe I missed the comment, but in case it hasn't been mentioned, jigs that have some glow to them tend to catch more than those that don't. I like to make sure mine have absorbed some sun light into the glow paint before dropping them down into the abyss. Jigs that don't have glow paint, and be modified with a thin strip of glow tape which can be purchased off ebay.
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I've always liked glow colors...
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I couldn't resist and got an Okuma Hawaiian slow pitch rod. Dying to try it out when SIP is over. I got the HCSJ-C-631MH
https://youtu.be/SSzmrYVdUgY
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I couldn't resist and got an Okuma Hawaiian slow pitch rod. Dying to try it out when SIP is over. I got the HCSJ-C-631MH
https://youtu.be/SSzmrYVdUgY
Please let me know how you like the rod. I am considering getting one too.
Thank you.
Paul
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I couldn't resist and got an Okuma Hawaiian slow pitch rod. Dying to try it out when SIP is over. I got the HCSJ-C-631MH
https://youtu.be/SSzmrYVdUgY
Please let me know how you like the rod. I am considering getting one too.
Thank you.
Paul
I started with a Tsumani jig rod for about $90. Comparing the 2 rods, the Okuma has higher quality components. I've pulling on it my garage paired with a Lexa 400 HD. Its got a lot more lifting power.
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I couldn't resist and got an Okuma Hawaiian slow pitch rod. Dying to try it out when SIP is over. I got the HCSJ-C-631MH
https://youtu.be/SSzmrYVdUgY
Please let me know how you like the rod. I am considering getting one too.
Thank you.
Paul
I started with a Tsumani jig rod for about $90. Comparing the 2 rods, the Okuma has higher quality components. I've pulling on it my garage paired with a Lexa 400 HD. Its got a lot more lifting power.
I own several Okuma reels and rods, very happy with their performance and customer support.
Do you think it is worth the extra cost compare to the Tsunami rod? It will be my first slow pitch rod.
Paul
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I've been using my slow pitch on mackinaw up at Union Valley lately and it's deadly. April is always a good month, but May is good too. Usually I'll fish at a cove or deep drop at 50' and one full crank off the bottom, then jig. When I can't target the fish, I'll troll the bottom with my fish finder on. When I get one to follow, they never bite, too smart/educated, I'll mark the spot, go back and slow pitch over the spot. Works almost every time! Sometimes one or two jigs will do the trick, sometimes they'll hit it on the way down. In each case, they hit when it flutters, so I've really gotta watch the rod and hit it HARD to set the hook due to the slack.
My fishing buddy, Ken, AKA E Kayaker, got me into it when he bought a spinning rod for slow pitch by mistake and sold it to me. He's attempted slow pitch on the ocean but seems to get a lot of hang-ups on the bottom. Probably works best on flatter seas.
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Glad to hear its working for you. Drift is the difficulty on the ocean.
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Ive been using the Tsunami Trophy for over 3 years now.
Ive jigged for RFs, Lings, trolled for halibut, trolled for salmon.
Ive been using the 7ft Heavy rod.
I lost less salmon since I started using the slow pitch rod. It mimics a downrigger rod.
For Lingcod, its always fun to fight them on this noodle rod with a lot of backbone.
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Ive been using the Tsunami Trophy for over 3 years now.
Ive jigged for RFs, Lings, trolled for halibut, trolled for salmon.
Ive been using the 7ft Heavy rod.
I lost less salmon since I started using the slow pitch rod. It mimics a downrigger rod.
For Lingcod, its always fun to fight them on this noodle rod with a lot of backbone.
Yes, I can confirm all this. John is my fishing buddy and he out fishes me regularly. :smt004
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Ive been using the Tsunami Trophy for over 3 years now.
Ive jigged for RFs, Lings, trolled for halibut, trolled for salmon.
Ive been using the 7ft Heavy rod.
I lost less salmon since I started using the slow pitch rod. It mimics a downrigger rod.
For Lingcod, its always fun to fight them on this noodle rod with a lot of backbone.
Yes, I can confirm all this. John is my fishing buddy and he out fishes me regularly. :smt004
You guys convinced me to get a slow pitch jigging rod. Now, I have to decide which one.
I am debating between Tsunami TSSPJC-701XH https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-trophy-series-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html (https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-trophy-series-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html) and Okuma HCSJ-C-631H Hawaiian Custom https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-hcsj-c-631h-hawaiian-custom-slow-jigging-casting-rod.html (https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-hcsj-c-631h-hawaiian-custom-slow-jigging-casting-rod.html).
My choice is a heavier rod to able to use in Southern California deeper water.
Paul
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Ive been using the Tsunami Trophy for over 3 years now.
Ive jigged for RFs, Lings, trolled for halibut, trolled for salmon.
Ive been using the 7ft Heavy rod.
I lost less salmon since I started using the slow pitch rod. It mimics a downrigger rod.
For Lingcod, its always fun to fight them on this noodle rod with a lot of backbone.
Yes, I can confirm all this. John is my fishing buddy and he out fishes me regularly. :smt004
Here's proof, my 2 buddies caught all the big fish with their jigging rods. http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=88467.0
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It's like choosing a golf club. Different rods for different conditions. The more drift or line scope the heavier lure and heavier rod.
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Ive been using the Tsunami Trophy for over 3 years now.
Ive jigged for RFs, Lings, trolled for halibut, trolled for salmon.
Ive been using the 7ft Heavy rod.
I lost less salmon since I started using the slow pitch rod. It mimics a downrigger rod.
For Lingcod, its always fun to fight them on this noodle rod with a lot of backbone.
Yes, I can confirm all this. John is my fishing buddy and he out fishes me regularly. :smt004
You guys convinced me to get a slow pitch jigging rod. Now, I have to decide which one.
I am debating between Tsunami TSSPJC-701XH https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-trophy-series-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html (https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-trophy-series-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html) and Okuma HCSJ-C-631H Hawaiian Custom https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-hcsj-c-631h-hawaiian-custom-slow-jigging-casting-rod.html (https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-hcsj-c-631h-hawaiian-custom-slow-jigging-casting-rod.html).
My choice is a heavier rod to able to use in Southern California deeper water.
Paul
You should match the lure weight rating to the water depth you are fishing. I almost always fish under a 100 feet. I own the Tsunami TSSPJ-C701H, personally the heaviest lure weight I've used on it is 6oz w/c it handles with ease. I went with the HCSJ-C-631MH Okuma Hawaii Jig rod since its rated for 100 - 160g and their mid power model. Comparing the the rods together, the Okuma is way better built and has higher end components.
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Ive been using the Tsunami Trophy for over 3 years now.
Ive jigged for RFs, Lings, trolled for halibut, trolled for salmon.
Ive been using the 7ft Heavy rod.
I lost less salmon since I started using the slow pitch rod. It mimics a downrigger rod.
For Lingcod, its always fun to fight them on this noodle rod with a lot of backbone.
Yes, I can confirm all this. John is my fishing buddy and he out fishes me regularly. :smt004
You guys convinced me to get a slow pitch jigging rod. Now, I have to decide which one.
I am debating between Tsunami TSSPJC-701XH https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-trophy-series-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html (https://www.tackledirect.com/tsunami-trophy-series-slow-pitch-jigging-casting-rods.html) and Okuma HCSJ-C-631H Hawaiian Custom https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-hcsj-c-631h-hawaiian-custom-slow-jigging-casting-rod.html (https://www.tackledirect.com/okuma-hcsj-c-631h-hawaiian-custom-slow-jigging-casting-rod.html).
My choice is a heavier rod to able to use in Southern California deeper water.
Paul
You should match the lure weight to the water depth you are fishing. I almost always fish under a 100 feet. I own the Tsunami TSSPJ-C701H, personally the heaviest lure weight I've used on it is 6oz w/c it handles with ease. I went with the HCSJ-C-631MH Okuma Hawaii Jig rod since its rated for 100 - 160g and their mid power model. Comparing the the rods together, the Okuma is way better built and has higher end components.
Thank you for the detailed recommendation. Do you see any potential issue with Okuma being only 6' 3'' long?
Paul
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My jigging rods are 5'3" and 6'3". Luv em both. The longer one is considered micro jig up to 100 grams. The 5'3", I've used for small Cali Hali and big lings and is my rod of choice
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I love my 5'8" ghost hunter 300g pe #5-#6. Made in USA by a Japanese master...Jigging World...theory is you can always jig lighter with a heavier spec but the action is not attainable jigging a larger weight on a lighter rod. This rod can handle up to 10oz. I paddle so I cannot avoid the drift and depending on current I might need a heavier jig in certain depths to stay vertical... :smt006
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
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Dang...those poor fish didn't have a chance...love the colors...good stuff... :smt006
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
I'd be great to see your report. I need to figure out how to use the Inchiku jigs you recommended. I tried them but no bites.
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91537.0
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
I'd be great to see your report. I need to figure out how to use the Inchiku jigs you recommended. I tried them but no bites.
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91537.0
Where did you purchase your Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod?
I was hoping for some Memorial Weekend sale.
Paul
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
I'd be great to see your report. I need to figure out how to use the Inchiku jigs you recommended. I tried them but no bites.
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91537.0
Where did you purchase your Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod?
I was hoping for some Memorial Weekend sale.
Paul
I got it at Charkbait.com. Free overnight shipping included. I received my order in less than 24 hours :smt003
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
I'd be great to see your report. I need to figure out how to use the Inchiku jigs you recommended. I tried them but no bites.
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91537.0
Where did you purchase your Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod?
I was hoping for some Memorial Weekend sale.
Paul
I got it at Charkbait.com. Free overnight shipping included. I received my order in less than 24 hours :smt003
I just placed an order from Charkbait.
Thank you.
Paul
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I'm gonna need to look at these rods. Mainly interested in a rod for halibut jigging since I lost my go to setup last year
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
I'd be great to see your report. I need to figure out how to use the Inchiku jigs you recommended. I tried them but no bites.
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91537.0
Where did you purchase your Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod?
I was hoping for some Memorial Weekend sale.
Paul
I got it at Charkbait.com. Free overnight shipping included. I received my order in less than 24 hours :smt003
Received my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod from Charkbait.com, only two days after my order. They also offer a military discount and great service.
Now, I need to figure out where to test this rod.
Paul
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I am loving my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod. 2 trips completed both in shitty weather conditions, yesterday's trip only had about 2.5 hrs of a good window. Its a joy to use. The moderate action takes most of the load bring up my gear and catch. The longer top foregrip makes using it super comfy. I used it for jigging metal and dropping live bait.
I just received a brand new Daiwa Harrier Jig rod. I am surprised its has fast action (no details in Daiwa website). The reel seat and foregrip are not as high end as the Okuma. Thats why its half the price.
I can't wait to get an Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod and catch some rockfish.
Thank you for your report.
Paul
I'd be great to see your report. I need to figure out how to use the Inchiku jigs you recommended. I tried them but no bites.
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=91537.0
Where did you purchase your Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod?
I was hoping for some Memorial Weekend sale.
Paul
I got it at Charkbait.com. Free overnight shipping included. I received my order in less than 24 hours :smt003
Received my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod from Charkbait.com, only two days after my order. They also offer a military discount and great service.
Now, I need to figure out where to test this rod.
Paul
Paul - Congrats on your new rod. Curious, which one did you pick?
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I got it at Charkbait.com. Free overnight shipping included. I received my order in less than 24 hours :smt003
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Received my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod from Charkbait.com, only two days after my order. They also offer a military discount and great service.
Now, I need to figure out where to test this rod.
Paul
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Paul - Congrats on your new rod. Curious, which one did you pick?
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I got the heavy casing rod: HCSJ-C-631H
HCSJ-C 63H Conventional, 6 ft 3 in, Moderate Action, PE4-5, 120 - 250 gm
We should hook up together to test our fishing methods.
Paul
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Just for fun, the 13lb hali I caught today slammed my 5' 8" ghost hunter spiral wrap 300g rod and it worked like a boss. Tip dove under the kayak, I picked it up and it stayed good and bent and down...I've caught a sturgeon on it as well... :smt006
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Just for fun, the 13lb hali I caught today slammed my 5' 8" ghost hunter spiral wrap 330g rod and it worked like a boss. Tip dove under the kayak, I picked it up and it stayed good and bent and down...I've caught a sturgeon on it as well... :smt006
Hi Eddie
I need to chase you aground one of these days to see you in action with your slow jig rod.
Just attached an Okuma Metaloid M-5II reel to my new rod to get ready.
Paul
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I got it at Charkbait.com. Free overnight shipping included. I received my order in less than 24 hours :smt003
Received my Okuma Hawaiian Jig rod from Charkbait.com, only two days after my order. They also offer a military discount and great service.
Now, I need to figure out where to test this rod.
Paul
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Paul - Congrats on your new rod. Curious, which one did you pick?
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I got the heavy casing rod: HCSJ-C-631H
HCSJ-C 63H Conventional, 6 ft 3 in, Moderate Action, PE4-5, 120 - 250 gm
We should hook up together to test our fishing methods.
Paul
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Hey Paul, You can be like me. Attach reel on your new rod, line it up, tie a snap at the end, connect to a fix or heavy object. Pull and wind to your hearts content. It would be great to fish with and your wife soon.
Mel
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I attached weight to the rod and reeled in to see how it feels.
Watched most of Slow Pitch Jig Fishing seminars on YouTube.
Order some slow pitch jigs from Amazon.
I think I am ready to go catch some fish.
Paul
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Love em' jigs...when I flipped at Muir I lost my box containing 5 of my faves....
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Love em' jigs...when I flipped at Muir I lost my box containing 5 of my faves....
What weight jig do you typically use?
In addition to rockfish, I want to go after yellowtail, halibut and tuna in Southern California.
The chart below shows the jig color recommendation.
Paul
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NEVER tell a your spouse about losing gear LOL. I dont mention shoes or her purse collection...
Wait 123 fishes with his Mrs right ? Dude you get a pass LOL
I think she likes fishing more than I do. She enjoys all the seafood we catch: rockfish, halibut, lobster, crab, yellowtail, and horseneck clam.
After she sees me landing some fish with my new slow jig rod, I might have to order one for her too.
Last year I got demoted to deckhand since she was landing so many fish, I typically don't get much opportunity to fish.
Paul
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Love em' jigs...when I flipped at Muir I lost my box containing 5 of my faves....
What weight jig do you typically use?
In addition to rockfish, I want to go after yellowtail, halibut and tuna in Southern California.
The chart below shows the jig color recommendation.
Paul
Whatever it takes to stay vertical ,being a paddler, so I went with some 180's and 200's as well...depending on depth and drift...not legalistic on the vertical though...45' no bueno for sure though... :smt006
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I attached weight to the rod and reeled in to see how it feels.
Watched most of Slow Pitch Jig Fishing seminars on YouTube.
Order some slow pitch jigs from Amazon.
I think I am ready to go catch some fish.
Paul
Those are nice looking jigs. When I snag and loose my existing inventory I am going to order some.
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I attached weight to the rod and reeled in to see how it feels.
Watched most of Slow Pitch Jig Fishing seminars on YouTube.
Order some slow pitch jigs from Amazon.
I think I am ready to go catch some fish.
Paul
Those are nice looking jigs. When I snag and loose my existing inventory I am going to order some.
You can also order directly from their website: https://calissafishing.com/ (https://calissafishing.com/)
They currently have a sale and FREE SHIPPING WITH $40 PURCHASE.
Paul
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Here's what PE ratings stand for: https://forums.noreast.com/17-inshore-tackle-techniques-lep/274569-slow-pitch-jigging-grams-ounces-pe-line-ratings-what-does-all-mean.html
PE# Diameter
PE 0.6
.. 0.128mm
PE 0.8
.. 0.148mm
PE 1
.. 0.165mm
PE 1.2
.. 0.185mm
PE 1.5
.. 0.205mm
PE 1.7
.. 0.218mm
PE 2
.. 0.235mm
PE 2.5
.. 0.260mm
PE 3
.. 0.285mm
PE 3.5
.. 0.310mm
PE 4
.. 0.330mm
PE 5
.. 0.370mm
PE 6
.. 0.405mm
PE 7
.. 0.435mm
PE 8
.. 0.470mm
PE 10
0.520mm
PE 12
0.570mm
PE 14
0.620mm
PE 16
0.660mm
PE 18
0.700mm
PE 20
0.740mm
PE 22
0.780mm
PE 24
0.810mm
PE 28
0.870mm
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Where do you attach your assist hooks? Head or Tail?
The following jigs arrived with hooks attached to the tail. The manufacture recommends this position.
I thought typically the hooks are attached to the head where the leader is attached.
Also, I tried to tie my on assist hooks for other jigs. Some of the jigs I purchased from Asia have small hooks and I decided to replace them with larger hooks.
Paul
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Hi Jerry
Thank you for the information. We need to hook up after the Corona Virus is over eight at Ocean or Mountain.
I want to take multiple day trips to test all different jigs and fish method.
Paul
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I got the heavy casing rod: HCSJ-C-631H
HCSJ-C 63H Conventional, 6 ft 3 in, Moderate Action, PE4-5, 120 - 250 gm
We should hook up together to test our fishing methods.
Paul
I got that one too. Now I have 2 Okuma slow pitch rods. Hoping to try it out soon.
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I got the heavy casing rod: HCSJ-C-631H
HCSJ-C 63H Conventional, 6 ft 3 in, Moderate Action, PE4-5, 120 - 250 gm
We should hook up together to test our fishing methods.
Paul
I got that one too. Now I have 2 Okuma slow pitch rods. Hoping to try it out soon.
I got to use mine today. Got one Ling and limit of rockfish within two hours at Fort Ross.
Definitely it is a keeper.
Paul
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I got the heavy casing rod: HCSJ-C-631H
HCSJ-C 63H Conventional, 6 ft 3 in, Moderate Action, PE4-5, 120 - 250 gm
We should hook up together to test our fishing methods.
Paul
I got that one too. Now I have 2 Okuma slow pitch rods. Hoping to try it out soon.
I got to use mine today. Got one Ling and limit of rockfish within two hours at Fort Ross.
Definitely it is a keeper.
Paul
Congrats on your day
Curious, what time did they open the gate at FR?
It varies day to day. It was open when we got there this morning at 7:00 AM
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Put the Okuma jig rod to work today in Carmel. Just got done.
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We need to have a slow pitch group get together after the coronavirus is over.
Paul
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We need to have a slow pitch group get together after the coronavirus is over.
Paul
Hey Paul,
Took out the HCSJ C 63H yesterday for the 1rst time. I wanted to hit the deep water first at around 160 ft and get some reds. Conditions were still good and knowing this area and regardless of what the forecasts said, it gets windy before noon.
I switched between a 4 oz jig head with Big Hammer tail and 6 oz metal jig to get the bigger fish. The Okuma rod was fun for bouncing jigs with its medium parabolic action. I never had the spectra get wrapped on the rod tip. Numerous times when I stopped the school fish would congregate right under my yak. I used my lighter Tsunami jig rod and dropped a 3/4 oz jig head / 3 inch Big Hammer swimbait straight down for some light tackle fun. By 10am the wind picked and headed in.
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After reading some things here I went and gave this a shot early this week. I don't think we were in the right area but still managed our first ling and a small rockfish. First kayak fish for my fiance and I. And the ling was her biggest fish yet
Thanks for all knowledge
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After reading some things here I went and gave this a shot early this week. I don't think we were in the right area but still managed our first ling and a small rockfish. First kayak fish for my fiance and I. And the ling was her biggest fish yet
Thanks for all knowledge
Glad you and your fiance had fun.
I typically go fishing with my wife on our Hobie Oasis. If you need any help with tandem fishing, please let me know.
We typically go Russian Gulch or Fort Ross.
Paul
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After reading some things here I went and gave this a shot early this week. I don't think we were in the right area but still managed our first ling and a small rockfish. First kayak fish for my fiance and I. And the ling was her biggest fish yet
Thanks for all knowledge
Glad you and your fiance had fun.
I typically go fishing with my wife on our Hobie Oasis. If you need any help with tandem fishing, please let me know.
We typically go Russian Gulch or Fort Ross.
Paul
We had a pro angler tandem that I had to sell because we argued to much 😅. Now we're in seperate kayaks and it's a lot nicer, or she is to me haha
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After reading some things here I went and gave this a shot early this week. I don't think we were in the right area but still managed our first ling and a small rockfish. First kayak fish for my fiance and I. And the ling was her biggest fish yet
Thanks for all knowledge
Glad you and your fiance had fun.
I typically go fishing with my wife on our Hobie Oasis. If you need any help with tandem fishing, please let me know.
We typically go Russian Gulch or Fort Ross.
Paul
We had a pro angler tandem that I had to sell because we argued to much 😅. Now we're in seperate kayaks and it's a lot nicer, or she is to me haha
Pro Angler 17 is a monster, I don't think I can car top to carry with my Subaru Outback.
My wife use me as a deckhand to rig jigs, net the fish, unhook, string, and clean fish.
Paul
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I ordered the tsunami slow pitch rods , and they showed up today. Are the eyelets supposed to go slowly make a 180 degree rotation? Not that they're moving but that first one by the reel sits as it would normally and the one on the top is on the opposite side of the road. Like it starts as a conventional rod and finishes as a spinning.
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I ordered the tsunami slow pitch rods , and they showed up today. Are the eyelets supposed to go slowly make a 180 degree rotation? Not that they're moving but that first one by the reel sits as it would normally and the one on the top is on the opposite side of the road. Like it starts as a conventional rod and finishes as a spinning.
This is called spiral wrap. It is designed that way.
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I ordered the tsunami slow pitch rods , and they showed up today. Are the eyelets supposed to go slowly make a 180 degree rotation? Not that they're moving but that first one by the reel sits as it would normally and the one on the top is on the opposite side of the road. Like it starts as a conventional rod and finishes as a spinning.
It better transfers the force along the blank when the line is under the rod, so this is to do that.
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Thanks!
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So how is everyone enjoying their slow pitch setups? I read this whole thread and watched a bunch of videos. I went ahead and purchased a rod, but will use one of the reels I have to start out.
One of the videos i watched was how to not break your rod. The person in the video seems angry about warranty returns due to negligence.
https://youtu.be/fRx51jYmbmE
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The video link isnt showing for me. It is at the Temple Reef website.
https://templereef.com/templereeftv/
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I have an Innovate and a Levitate, but only use them on sport boats. I can't quite get the action right sitting on my butt.
On the kayak, I've been using a 8'6" salmon rod to work 40-60gr jigs. The action of the salmon rod is a lot like the Innovate.
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It takes a lil bit to get used to it but when you do you'll love it.
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Got my first SPJ fish yesterday with Ty and Kyle on the Reel Obsession.
I had a few bumps from yellowtail on a 10 day trip a few years ago, but nothing stuck.
Caught a few random rf after the ling, but the ling was a nice first.
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Caught on a blue 160g Squish Jig.