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Kayak Fishing Zone => Safety First => Topic started by: E Kayaker on June 28, 2017, 07:34:26 PM

Title: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: E Kayaker on June 28, 2017, 07:34:26 PM
While fishing at Albion Saturday I ventured to the north a little near where water was breaking on some rocks. I didn't want to get too close and end up in the water or on the rocks. As I got closer the depth went from around 80 to 50 and then 25. It occurred to me that even though I wasn't in the surf zone, it might be possible for it to expand under the right conditions. How do you decide how close or how shallow is safe when approaching rock formations and breakers?
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: RacinRob on June 28, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
I watch the area for a bit if I know it s shallow. Wait for a few sets to come through and if it doesn't break, it MAY be safe. You can never be sure.
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: DG on June 28, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
Watch them for awhile before approaching and look where water is breaking when the biggest sets come in.  Give yourself enough room that you feel comfortable, but remember you can get some sneaker waves that top even the biggest ones you are seeing. 

Sometimes you can see top water disturbances or foamy water that may help you see currents and which way they are going. 

I like to face the wave so if it picks up I can get out quick. 

I don't take as many chances as others I have seen but still occasionally get a little to close. 


Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: Bushy on June 28, 2017, 09:24:22 PM
Dad-

Your instincts are correct.  If the bottom  goes ffrom 80 to 50 to 25, it's time to start paying close attention.  The 25' area is also a likely place to get bit, As well as on the slope.....

Stay Dry.

Bushy
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: KPD on June 28, 2017, 09:25:29 PM
A rough rule of thumb is that waves can break in water that is three times as deep as the wave height. So if there are 6 foot breakers you want to stay in more than 18 feet of water. Also think carefully about how you position yourself relative to the wind and current. If you capsize, will you be taken into the rocks?
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: polepole on June 28, 2017, 09:32:22 PM
My rule of thumb, "If my Spidey senses are tingling, fish elsewhere!".  Of course, all the rule of thumb hold too.  For the most part, I just try to stay deeper than 20'.

-Allen
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: Tote on June 28, 2017, 09:36:08 PM
Dad-

Your instincts are correct.  If the bottom  goes ffrom 80 to 50 to 25, it's time to start paying close attention.  The 25' area is also a likely place to get bit, As well as on the slope.....

Stay Dry.

Bushy

I dove that spot last October.
Top to bottom viz...KELP...but tons of urchins
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: E Kayaker on June 28, 2017, 10:20:28 PM
Thanks for the replies. Yes there was kelp there. I did watch things before getting close. When it got to 25ft I wondered how shallow it would need to be for a sneaker wave to cause a problem. Better safe, so I figured closer to 50ft was good. Thanks
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: krusty on June 28, 2017, 11:06:37 PM
A rough rule of thumb is that waves can break in water that is three times as deep as the wave height. So if there are 6 foot breakers you want to stay in more than 18 feet of water. Also think carefully about how you position yourself relative to the wind and current. If you capsize, will you be taken into the rocks?

No. Waves break when depth is around 1.3 x wave height. So a 6' wave would break around 7.8' depth.
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: crash on June 28, 2017, 11:14:29 PM
A rough rule of thumb is that waves can break in water that is three times as deep as the wave height. So if there are 6 foot breakers you want to stay in more than 18 feet of water. Also think carefully about how you position yourself relative to the wind and current. If you capsize, will you be taken into the rocks?

No. Waves break when depth is around 1.3 x wave height. So a 6' wave would break around 7.8' depth.


They might not break but they can definitely expose the rocks in the trough which is still a problem.
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: ryang85 on June 29, 2017, 08:05:09 AM
A rough rule of thumb is that waves can break in water that is three times as deep as the wave height. So if there are 6 foot breakers you want to stay in more than 18 feet of water. Also think carefully about how you position yourself relative to the wind and current. If you capsize, will you be taken into the rocks?

No. Waves break when depth is around 1.3 x wave height. So a 6' wave would break around 7.8' depth.


They might not break but they can definitely expose the rocks in the trough which is still a problem.
Last time i went to albion i was being stupid and paddling back from a dive( im a lot more careless since im in a full wetsuite and everything it packed inside my kayak,) and landed right on top of a wash rock and took a  3' breaker right over my lap,  luckily i was facing rhe wave so it didnt capsize me but it eould have been no big deal if it did. 
On a kayak getting close to the breakers is usaly a flat day thing on a small period swell.
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: Tim on July 01, 2017, 03:47:39 PM
When in doubt get out

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Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: Grim Reefer on July 01, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
My rule of thumb, "If my Spidey senses are tingling, fish elsewhere!".  Of course, all the rule of thumb hold too.  For the most part, I just try to stay deeper than 20'.

-Allen

I live by this rule... When it dont feel right, I'm out.
Title: Re: Fishing near shallow areas and breakers
Post by: E Kayaker on July 02, 2017, 12:56:12 AM
I was just in over my experience level. I prefer to make those decisions with at least a little bit of info. Since I didn't know, better safe than sorry.