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Dive Zone => Kayak Diving and Spearfishing => DOTY => Topic started by: DG on December 31, 2017, 11:03:16 PM

Title: DOTY 2018 - Let’s Do This
Post by: DG on December 31, 2017, 11:03:16 PM
2018 will be the 7th year for NCKA's DOTY competition.  Near the conclusion of each year suggestions have been sought on ways to modify and improve on the competition.  The DOTY Committee is responsible for approving entries and keeping the competition moving forward each year.  Abalone needed to be removed because of DFW's emergency closure.  Along with that a few additional rules have been modified after lots of debate and discussion.  We hope these changes will not discourage participation.  Hopefully we can encourage some new divers to participate and get help from some more experienced divers through out the year. 

You may begin participating as soon as your entry fee has been received.  Please use the Paypal link to pay your $40 entry fee. 

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/hermes?token=2LA430121M9191114&useraction=commit&mfid=1514788298891_d3e8b9ed53d36 (https://www.paypal.com/webapps/hermes?token=2LA430121M9191114&useraction=commit&mfid=1514788298891_d3e8b9ed53d36)   

After final totals for 2017 are in the Website Programmer needs to archive 2017 so it will be viewable for years to come. An updated DOTY page is being created and should be up and running soon.  It will have new features making it easier for Admin to make changes and users will be able to recover their own forgotten passwords.  This may take a few days to complete so be patient and we will advise everyone when they can upload their entries and create new user accounts.   

HERE ARE THE 2018 RULES

1. All entries (fish/scallop) must be taken while freediving without any assistance from another diver. Assistance is defined as: Finding, marking the hole, luring, chumming or directing another diver to a fish or scallop. No other diver can load the gun, make a back-up shot, touch spear or iron or assist in the landing of fish or scallop. You may alert another diver to the possible presence of a fish in a general area, but not a specific area such as; next to my gun, at the end of my float line, right underneath me, in a hole under that big rock, etc.

2. Chumming is not permitted.

3. Diving can be from shore or from kayak or dive board. No motorized vessels or mothershipping or SCUBA.

4. Photographic evidence of fish/scallops (total length) against a measuring device must be provided. All entries must be rounded down to the nearest quarter inch. Pictures are required to show the MOUTH CLOSED of the fish on a Hawg Trough or similar measuring board. You are not allowed to stretch or pull the lips to gain extra length. This is in accordance with DFW measuring standards. Multiple pics can be submitted to show mouth closed and touching end of trough (if need be due to rigor mortis making squeezing mouth shut necessary). Any entries not in compliance will be subject to DQ of entry at discretion of DOTY committee. Pictures of fish need to be taken BEFORE scaling/gutting etc. for both ID and accuracy of measurement purposes. Only pictures that show the ENTIRE fish will be used in judging submissions. Missing portions of the head or tail in the photograph may result in a disqualification of the submission. “Tail only” shots may be used to clarify full length pictures, but will not be used as the sole factor in determining length. Committee recommends competitors take pictures of fish from “straight up”, as this assists committee in determining the accurate length of the fish.

5. Scallops can be measured with calipers or a hawgtrough and knife (see pics for examples). Both shells must be visible in at least one picture if not still joined together. Rocks, old shells etc not included in measurement.

Measurements will be rounded down to the nearest quarter inch.
For example:
8.9" Scallop --> entered as 8.75"
9" Scallop --> entered as 9"
9.1" Scallop --> entered as 9"
9.2" Scallop--> entered as 9"
9.3" Scallop --> entered as 9.25"
9.4" Scallop --> entered as 9.25"
9.5" Scallop --> entered as 9.5"
& so forth

Keep your PB shell. In event of tie at end of year, shells will be calipered as a tie breaker.

6. The pool is open to anyone, and runs from January 1, 2018 to December 31, 2018. Fish and scallops taken prior to payment of entry fees are ineligible. Prospective participants are STRONGLY encouraged to join NCKA and share their stories, although it is not required.

7. Payment of DOTY fees makes the participant eligible to participate in AOTY and vice versa.

8. All fish and scallops entered must be taken south of the California/Oregon border and north of the mouth of Moro Rock.

9. The pool covers the following categories: Lingcod, Cabezon, Greenling, Blue Rockfish, Black RockFish, Gopher Rockfish/Black&Yellow Rockfish/China RockFish, Kelp Rockfish, Grass RockFish, Copper RockFish, Vermillion RockFish, Olive RockFish, MonkeyFace Prickleback, Halibut (California and Pacific), Perch (all kinds), Sheepshead, White SeaBass, Rock Scallops, Striped Bass (Ocean or Freshwater).

10. Each diver is only allowed ONE freshwater Striped Bass entry. Please be aware this is a touchy subject for a lot of people. Be respectful and stay within the law. Freshwater Striped Bass diving comes with its own hazards, including possible assault from cranky fisherman who don't want you there. It's recommended you avoid shooting big landlocked hens, but as long as you stay within the law all fish count. If a freshwater Striped Bass is entered list “freshwater” in the comment section. 

11. The biggest fish and scallop from each diver's top 14 species will be used towards the diver’s total points.

12. Entries must be posted within 1 week of being taken and photographed. No "hoarding" of entries.

13. ALL DFW rules must be followed 100%. Period. Any breaking of any DFW rules will result in the entry being disqualified, and flogging in public.

14. If you don't like the rules and don't want to play, don't! Diving is fun, and this is meant to be fun between friends as well. We all have bigger and better things to argue/stress/worry about.

15. AOTY is DIFFERENT than DOTY. Hook and line fishing is DIFFERENT than freediving/spearfishing. The rules for both contests are DIFFERENT. Discussion of rules is encouraged, and will be considered and evaluated for use in future year DOTYs.

16. DOTY committee members have final say over any and all issues/arguments/controversies.


Title: Re: DOTY 2018 Rules and Website Info
Post by: dogpaddle on December 31, 2017, 11:36:55 PM
Just want to confirm #11. It's the top 14 fish/scallop?
Title: Re: DOTY 2018 Rules and Website Info
Post by: DG on December 31, 2017, 11:50:36 PM
Just want to confirm #11. It's the top 14 fish/scallop?

Yes
Title: DOTY 2018
Post by: DG on January 16, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
The DOTY site is working now.  There are a couple minor changes still being made but the rules are posted.  Please read them all. 

If you have participated in the past and want to again just go to the Paypal link and pay.  Once the payment is confirmed we will activate your previous username so you can upload your fish or scallop pictures to the DOTY page. 

If you are a new participant you can pay the fee and create a new user name on the DOTY page.  We will activate it once the payment is confirmed.

After speaking with Gio we have decided to be a little more lenient on disqualifying fish that you had to push the lips together because of rigor.  We thought about a point deduction or changing the language in the rules but ultimately didn’t make the change for this year.  So on fish that are hard to find or possible trophies please send us a message to review and save the fish in case additional pictures are needed.  This is supposed to be a fun event but is based on the honor system so do your best to provide good quality pictures that can verify the total length. 

Title: Re: DOTY 2018 - Let’s Do This
Post by: Wilderness medic on January 16, 2018, 02:06:39 PM
Just to clarify- Lip pulling is still not allowed. Don’t take advantage of this. Gently pushing the mouth closed is fine. If you squeeze down hard and the lips are obviously squirting out the front adding length you will still be DQ’d. We are just not going to throw your entire fish out because of where you placed your fingers trying to get the rigored mouth shut.