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Title: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: MikeinFresno on October 18, 2012, 11:07:29 AM
Trying to figure out how to securely hold the box in so it wont come off in a roll over. Ive seen a pic here for using hooks on the box and the stock bungee, seems I saw putting eyes on the ends and using a clip of some sort too, but cant find that pic again. What do you do?
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: EWB on October 18, 2012, 11:22:14 AM
a pad eye on each side of the plano box about 2/3 of the way up and use clips (carabiner or similar) to attach it the the bungee pad eye. 
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: PISCEAN on October 18, 2012, 12:07:11 PM
a pad eye on each side of the plano box about 2/3 of the way up and use clips (carabiner or similar) to attach it the the bungee pad eye.

I'll add my experience. I put 4 PVC tubes on the back of the plano as rod/net holders. In bouncy conditions, the weight of the rods would cause the box to flip over, rotating on the two side clips. I had to add two padeyes to the back deck of my T140 to stabilize it. It is rock solid now though, even with 4 seabass rods on it. I used brass clips.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: EWB on October 18, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
a pad eye on each side of the plano box about 2/3 of the way up and use clips (carabiner or similar) to attach it the the bungee pad eye.

I'll add my experience. I put 4 PVC tubes on the back of the plano as rod/net holders. In bouncy conditions, the weight of the rods would cause the box to flip over, rotating on the two side clips. I had to add two padeyes to the back deck of my T140 to stabilize it. It is rock solid now though, even with 4 seabass rods on it. I used brass clips.

the T13 has a plano designed spot for the box. not sure tipping will be an issue. but for sure with other boats. I had some similar issues when i used it on the revo
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Great Bass 2 on October 18, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
A bungee won't hold it in place in a surf rollover. Use double brass clips one on each side.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Abdiver on October 18, 2012, 12:32:01 PM
I'll post a picture of mine when I get home from work tonight.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: PISCEAN on October 18, 2012, 01:02:04 PM
a pad eye on each side of the plano box about 2/3 of the way up and use clips (carabiner or similar) to attach it the the bungee pad eye.

I'll add my experience. I put 4 PVC tubes on the back of the plano as rod/net holders. In bouncy conditions, the weight of the rods would cause the box to flip over, rotating on the two side clips. I had to add two padeyes to the back deck of my T140 to stabilize it. It is rock solid now though, even with 4 seabass rods on it. I used brass clips.

the T13 has a plano designed spot for the box. not sure tipping will be an issue. but for sure with other boats. I had some similar issues when i used it on the revo

Yeah, the tarpon i have is totally flat in the tankwell. If there was a recess for the box then it wouldn't flip. yet another way my yak is showing its age :smt003
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: EWB on October 18, 2012, 01:03:09 PM
a pad eye on each side of the plano box about 2/3 of the way up and use clips (carabiner or similar) to attach it the the bungee pad eye.

I'll add my experience. I put 4 PVC tubes on the back of the plano as rod/net holders. In bouncy conditions, the weight of the rods would cause the box to flip over, rotating on the two side clips. I had to add two padeyes to the back deck of my T140 to stabilize it. It is rock solid now though, even with 4 seabass rods on it. I used brass clips.

the T13 has a plano designed spot for the box. not sure tipping will be an issue. but for sure with other boats. I had some similar issues when i used it on the revo

Yeah, the tarpon i have is totally flat in the tankwell. If there was a recess for the box then it wouldn't flip. yet another way my yak is showing its age :smt003

but its got STYLE and MOJO!
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: MikeinFresno on October 19, 2012, 08:49:12 AM
Thx guys, i used the clip method to pad eyes, wiggles a little but wont come out in a roll over.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Fishbucket on October 19, 2012, 09:08:55 AM
I used these in each corner of the box with a bungee threaded thru.

 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/theotherbigjoe/FishSnifferpixs/Kayak%20Fishing/kayak002.jpg)

Utilized the clips I had gotten from somewhere else...

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/theotherbigjoe/FishSnifferpixs/Kayak%20Fishing/kayak003.jpg)

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/theotherbigjoe/FishSnifferpixs/Kayak%20Fishing/kayak004.jpg)

Works pretty good. A little bit of trouble getting the clip off the pad eye on my T-15.... But it will not come out ina roll-over,  full of gear and 3 rods in the holders  :smt003
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: CrawFish on October 19, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
When I first started this madness I read on here from someone that you should be able to lift your boat by your box/crate/bucket and not have it  move much. After learning first hand that sagging gear in a surf yard sale is a huge PITA (and dangerous)I took that advice and ditched my bungies.  I use the Plano with the one handed clips and crabbing I use a crate with a five gallon bucket inside all tightly clipped. Bucket has tight lid with tether for the trips back in thru the surf. Don't laugh, it has saved my dinner a few times, OK, maybe I suck at surf landings but shit happens to us all.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: PISCEAN on October 19, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
When I first started this madness I read on here from someone that you should be able to lift your boat by your box/crate/bucket and not have it  move much.

that's awesome, I love it.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: MikeinFresno on October 22, 2012, 09:15:53 AM
now Im on to figure out my crate or other way to carry the other stuff
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Bushy on October 22, 2012, 11:08:29 AM
I think we need pix on this thread.  I'd add some of my own, but admit I don't secure my plano.

I think I better start doing it though, so mas pix appreciado!

Allen

Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Abdiver on October 22, 2012, 09:15:35 PM
I think we need pix on this thread. 

Here are a couple pictures of my plano box setups-

Two setups
1st - Without space behind the seat
2nd- Space behind the seat for anchor rope

Last picture is the type of clip I used- (Lowes carries them for about $2.50 ea.)
Title: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: ScottV on October 22, 2012, 09:22:19 PM
What model Plano box is that?


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Title: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Mr.Matt on October 22, 2012, 09:23:38 PM
Abdiver. That second to last picture. Where did u get that?


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Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Abdiver on October 22, 2012, 09:39:11 PM
What model Plano box is that?

Plano model 1612- black (ammo box)
http://www.amazon.com/1612-Plano-Deep-Field-Box/dp/B0029KHB10/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350966984&sr=8-2&keywords=plano+1612 (http://www.amazon.com/1612-Plano-Deep-Field-Box/dp/B0029KHB10/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350966984&sr=8-2&keywords=plano+1612)

Berkley rod holders -
http://www.sportchalet.com/product/301592_3072297.do?g=adult-unisex&kwid=berkley+tube+rod+rack+black&gclid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportchalet.com%2Fproduct%2F301592_3072297.do%3Fg%3Dadult-unisex (http://www.sportchalet.com/product/301592_3072297.do?g=adult-unisex&kwid=berkley+tube+rod+rack+black&gclid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportchalet.com%2Fproduct%2F301592_3072297.do%3Fg%3Dadult-unisex)

Box/Rod holder Stand Offs- Taps Plastic =Free (just have to cut to size)

Note: Slight user modification to make all components above able to fit.
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Abdiver on October 22, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
Abdiver. That second to last picture. Where did u get that?

What the Box?
Title: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Mr.Matt on October 23, 2012, 05:26:46 AM
Yeah that box.


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Title: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Mr.Matt on October 23, 2012, 05:31:32 AM
Thanks for the link, gonna get me one.


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Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: EWB on October 23, 2012, 09:26:17 AM
yep thats the set up...pic = 1K words!
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: ScottV on October 23, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
What model Plano box is that?

Plano model 1612- black (ammo box)
http://www.amazon.com/1612-Plano-Deep-Field-Box/dp/B0029KHB10/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350966984&sr=8-2&keywords=plano+1612 (http://www.amazon.com/1612-Plano-Deep-Field-Box/dp/B0029KHB10/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350966984&sr=8-2&keywords=plano+1612)

Berkley rod holders -
http://www.sportchalet.com/product/301592_3072297.do?g=adult-unisex&kwid=berkley+tube+rod+rack+black&gclid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportchalet.com%2Fproduct%2F301592_3072297.do%3Fg%3Dadult-unisex (http://www.sportchalet.com/product/301592_3072297.do?g=adult-unisex&kwid=berkley+tube+rod+rack+black&gclid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportchalet.com%2Fproduct%2F301592_3072297.do%3Fg%3Dadult-unisex)

Box/Rod holder Stand Offs- Taps Plastic =Free (just have to cut to size)

Note: Slight user modification to make all components above able to fit.

Thank you very much!!
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Bushy on October 23, 2012, 10:43:39 AM
Nice Pix Abdiver, thanks! 

Anyone else?

Allen

Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: MikeinFresno on October 23, 2012, 04:25:31 PM
I like the 2nd mount option there with it spaced further back. that way it leaves a space to reach back and grab some things-box of lures, ??
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Great Bass 2 on October 23, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
Method 1 is what I use. Anything using bungees will fail in a massive surf wipeout. Believe me because nobody in NCKA has had more or more extreme wipeouts than me well maybe Freddie.     :smt005 If you do it right, you should be able to lift you kayak with the connection.
Title: Re: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: FolsomFishing on October 23, 2012, 05:49:10 PM
What model Plano box is that?

Plano model 1612- black (ammo box)
http://www.amazon.com/1612-Plano-Deep-Field-Box/dp/B0029KHB10/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350966984&sr=8-2&keywords=plano+1612 (http://www.amazon.com/1612-Plano-Deep-Field-Box/dp/B0029KHB10/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350966984&sr=8-2&keywords=plano+1612)

Berkley rod holders -
http://www.sportchalet.com/product/301592_3072297.do?g=adult-unisex&kwid=berkley+tube+rod+rack+black&gclid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportchalet.com%2Fproduct%2F301592_3072297.do%3Fg%3Dadult-unisex (http://www.sportchalet.com/product/301592_3072297.do?g=adult-unisex&kwid=berkley+tube+rod+rack+black&gclid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportchalet.com%2Fproduct%2F301592_3072297.do%3Fg%3Dadult-unisex)

Box/Rod holder Stand Offs- Taps Plastic =Free (just have to cut to size)

Note: Slight user modification to make all components above able to fit.

Hey Abdiver, love that setup. How many Plano 3700s can that box carry?
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Bushy on October 23, 2012, 09:45:02 PM
Method 1 is what I use. Anything using bungees will fail in a massive surf wipeout. Believe me because nobody in NCKA has had more or more extreme wipeouts than me well maybe Freddie.     :smt005 If you do it right, you should be able to lift you kayak with the connection.


hhhhaaaaa!!!!
Title: Re: Methods of hold down for Plano box in T13
Post by: Scurvy on January 19, 2017, 08:31:22 AM
Nice, thanks for posting this. I bought one of the Berkley rod holders, and then regrettably came to that same conclusion about wanting the rods to have more of a fan-shaped positioning.

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