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Title: Outback vs revo
Post by: SirFishAlot on June 12, 2015, 02:46:43 PM
I'm wanting to make the big switch from a trident but wondering what are the pro's and con's of the outback and revo from first hand experience.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: oldfart on June 12, 2015, 02:54:48 PM
Several threads on this over the years. There are plusses, minuses and proponents of each.  Try the search tool for some good info.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: bpowa on June 12, 2015, 02:56:51 PM
There are a couple threads below on the same topic.  From what I gather..   Revo for ocean, and outback for lakes or flat water.

Both can do both conditions.  More space for gear etc. on sides and stable for outback.

I have a revo.. I think its pretty stable enough for ocean.  A bit more tipsy than my old tarpon, but I got use to it real quick.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: BigJim on June 12, 2015, 02:59:06 PM
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=62818.0

 :smt006

Sincerely,

Jim
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: eelkram on June 12, 2015, 03:10:50 PM
The Outback is nicer to crab from because there is more room.  You can also kneel on it to take a leak if the swells aren't too close together.  But, it's a slow, slappy ride.  You'll ride up every swell and then slam down the back side.

The Revo is narrower and feels like there's less space, but feels much more nimble while on the move.  It punches through chop instead of riding over it.

Both troll nicely, but the Revo is more efficient by design.  Quite frankly, stability isn't too much of a concern after about 10 minutes of seat time.  Outback has outstanding primary and secondary stability.  Revo has less primary stability but still excellent secondary stability.

Or... do what I did and just buy an AI    :smt003
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: beenfishin on June 12, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Definitely try them both out, and read up on the pro/con threads already done.  For me, Outback, but I fish freshwater 98% of the time.  If I was more of a saltwater guy I'd probably go with the Revo 16.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: MikeinFresno on June 12, 2015, 04:05:40 PM
having just come from a T13 to the Outback I am soooo impressed, its just so good. It doesn't have the rod storage under the deck capabilities, that's the only thing that is not better than the T13, way more stable than the T13.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: Roofer Rich on June 12, 2015, 06:04:34 PM
I went from t13 to a pro angler 12 and hated my first couple times out until I got one of the backwater hand paddles and that brought back the monuverabilty that I lost going to a hobie. I have now spent 3 days on ocean back in my trident 13 and caught some nice rock cod at van damn and Caspar. I am glad I kept the t13 but the hobie drives just are amazing. Going out to Albion tomorrow in the trusty trident 13 that has served me well for past 6 years 
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: ThreemoneyJ on June 12, 2015, 06:53:07 PM
I was back and forth for about a year over outback or revo 13. I tested both numerous times. I'm about 75% freshwater and 25% salt. I ended up going with the revo 13 and am very pleased with it! Stability is great IMO. I spent a day of practice flipping it and recovering. It takes a lot more to flip than you would think! I keep the seat in the high position when I'm in freshwater and low in saltwater. Now that I own the revo I'm glad I went with it. The things that I thought I wanted in the outback weren't really there. Those were things like more storage and the ability to stand. If I really wanted those things then the pro angler would be the way to go! The revo is all day comfortable and very efficient. I've still fished, drift fished, trolled, and crabbed from it.

At any rate, test them both and see what you like 
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: SlackedTide on June 15, 2015, 10:29:21 PM
I had the same problem.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: matanaska on June 16, 2015, 07:00:40 AM
The Outback gets around just fine and has room to put bigger fish.  I have no problem keeping up with Revos in 11 and 13.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: polepole on June 16, 2015, 07:33:25 AM
The Outback gets around just fine and has room to put bigger fish.  I have no problem keeping up with Revos in 11 and 13.

But the real question is whether you could keep pace with yourself in a Revo ...

-Allen
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: Ghan on June 16, 2015, 10:04:57 AM
I went from an Outback to a Revo 13.

Outback: very stable, I have to TRY to flip it.  Bow shape causes every wave you hit to cause a slapping sound.  Nice to have the rails on the sides, I used 'em a lot on the fly to temporarily hold small things.  I hated the bungee on the front hatch. 
I fished the Simply Fishing tournament last year in the Outback and it was really hard to paddle that fat tub around in 20mph wind.
I can maintain a steady 3mph with turbo fins, tops at 5mph.

Revo 13: A lighter boat for loading and hauling around on the beach.
Not as stable, much less primary stability.
I can paddle the Revo at 2.5mph - 3mph, can maintain 4mph with turbo fins and tops out at 6mph for short bursts.
Much narrower sides, but still wide enough to mount gear tracks to attach most anything you might need.
The narrowness with much sleaker nose allows the boat to track better, cuts waves and maintains speed better especially in the wind.

I wish they made a Revoback - sleek nose, but wider in the middle.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: pridyuk on July 17, 2015, 11:14:17 AM

I wish they made a Revoback - sleek nose, but wider in the middle.

thats exactly how i feel, i own both and love both but a hybrid between the two would be the best.

speed - i cant really tell the difference.
stability-- maybe little more for the outback
space--definately outback, thats a big thing for me i like to keep stuff on the side trays of the outback.
slap--thats where the revo rules over the outback--when in ocean and in the chop outback just slams the waves and revo just cuts through them
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: P-Sherman on July 17, 2015, 12:52:03 PM

I wish they made a Revoback - sleek nose, but wider in the middle.

slap--thats where the revo rules over the outback--when in ocean and in the chop outback just slams the waves and revo just cuts through them

The Outbook "slaps" some water on your face when cutting through those choppy waves.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: mdoka_matt on July 17, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
If you live in HMB get the Revo 16.  You wont be disappointed.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: NowhereMan on July 17, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
If you live in HMB get the Revo 16.  You wont be disappointed.

I was just thinking the same thing. I haven't driven an Outback or the regular Revo, but for big water (and especially trolling), I don't think you can beat the Revo 16. At the least, you should give it a pedal so you can compare.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: Mienboy on July 18, 2015, 08:23:13 AM
One thing I notice about the outback is the noise of the hull slap.when you come to a stop and your fishing the noise of the water slapping against the hull just gets under my skin
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: Ling A Ding on July 18, 2015, 01:59:21 PM
If you live in HMB get the Revo 16.  You wont be disappointed.

what is the significance about the revolution 16 in Half Moon Bay? I like HMB because it is very close. I have been thinking about the resolution 16.  with one ama, on it should be very stable.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: elusive on July 18, 2015, 04:06:38 PM
Yes definitely ! I would go for Revo. 16 .. Specially if you are going to fish most of the time in the ocean . And I have both of them . Revo. 16 and Outback 2015  .. and barely use my Outback since I bought it cause of the porpoising (SLAP) on rough water ..
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: Scurvy on December 15, 2017, 07:23:17 PM
I have a Revo-16 and can say 1) I am almost entirely a salt guy, and 2) When I go out with other kayakers, even those in Revo-13's, they always comment on how fast my boat is.

More speed = greater range = cover more water = deeper & farther locations = more fish opportunities.
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: myyak8me on December 21, 2017, 03:17:57 PM
I fish mostly fresh water and love my Outback.  I’m not real flexible and reaching behind me for rods, tackle boxes, and snacks is easy on the Outback.  Kneeling to take a leak is also easy.   And paddling with a short paddle in tight areas works well on the Outback. It does feel slow compared to my wife’s Revo. 


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Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: poulton on December 21, 2017, 05:57:46 PM
I too have a Trident 13 which I still use
Tried the Outback and liked it after about 10 minutes to get the hang of things
I found the Revo 13 to tippy for me just sitting in roughish water. Fine moving
I am 240 lb Plus gear

I am looking at purchasing the Outback mainly due to stability for my self. $$$ is the hold back they are pricy

There is some strong competition coming up to challenge Hobie
Going to look at the Old Town
Looking  same with pedal power but mounting surfaces apear to be better??

DEMO DEMO DEMO
CCK has a Hobie fishing event that would be good to do  Allows you 4-6 hours fishing time and you really get to see how they are Expensive for the day but best demo in town
I do understand why people like them after fishing out of for 4 hr  out of Ocean cove. The reverse is GREAT
Dont get rid of the trident. They still are best if going on long fish trip
GOOD luck
Title: Re: Outback vs revo
Post by: Spring45 on December 21, 2017, 07:17:24 PM
Jackson's Coosa FD and Cruise FD are some fierce competition. I think with all this competition Hobie has now, this may create a price war. Better for us..