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Kayak Zone => Gearing Up and Rigging Up => Topic started by: 2-Skinny on April 01, 2007, 11:59:12 PM

Title: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: 2-Skinny on April 01, 2007, 11:59:12 PM
So after an incredibly slow day fishing in Delta Meadows, I decided that it was time to make a write up our kayak storage setup.  When faced with the prospect of finding a spot to keep not one but two full-size SOT 'yaks along with all the accoutrements in a cluttered garage, we obviously had a quandry.  We knew that we needed to keep them out of the: sun, dirt, heat, rain, etc. and also knew we hardly had any room to keep them...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0137.jpg)


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My dad tried to think of some way we could solve this problem...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0123.jpg)

After several minutes of hard thought, it was clear he needed some more "inspiration"...
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Finally, Eureka...he figured out how to do it...
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The plan called for 4 Wal-Mart (or Kragens) 6ft Nylon tie straps (roughly $12 per 2-pack), 4 stainless steel eye bolts, drill, measuring tape, and refreshments...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0122.jpg)

First measure out a space roughly 20" wide to place the eyebolts- preferably in studs...
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Mark these spots, then drill the appropriate sized holes...(unlike my Dad, please wear safety goggles and use two hands)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0132.jpg)

Use a screwdriver or similar leverage tool to sink the eyebolts into the ceiling...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0134.jpg)

Connect the nylon straps accross on the eye bolts...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0135.jpg)

Repeat for the other side of ceiling if necessary for additional kayak (as in our case)...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0128.jpg)

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Once straps are placed/mounted, guide kayak in until placed most appropriately...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0140.jpg)

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Then lift/cinch the straps until tightened completely against ceiling...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0149.jpg)

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0146.jpg)

Then tuck extra strap under and test garage door to make sure there is clearance...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0150.jpg)

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0154.jpg)

And there you have it!  A cheap, easy, secure way to store kayaks in a garage with little space.  To lower them down, simply press the release.  The weight of the kayak will lower it on its own.  If it feels like its going to slip through, take your hand off the release and it will stop letting slack.  Good luck everyone!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/2-Skinny/IMG_0153.jpg)
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: ChuckE on April 02, 2007, 09:57:17 AM
You and your dad did a very nice job.  Thanks for posting the cool step-by-step pics.  :smt023

How much clearance above the garage door do you end up with?
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: Usagi on April 02, 2007, 12:25:42 PM
That setup would be awesome...if I had a garage.   :smt010
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: Pat R. on April 02, 2007, 04:06:00 PM
That’s funny  :smt044 we must drink the same beer because that’s the same system I use. And believe it or not I can get my wife’s car in the garage to, nice job guys.

Pat R 
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: 2-Skinny on April 02, 2007, 07:43:38 PM
There is probably about an inch or less clearance where the door moves back from the closed position, and an inch to two when in the full open position
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: mooch on April 03, 2007, 12:50:22 PM
I think the word "Garage" should be change to  "SGS"  = "Sporting Goods Storage"  :smt003

I'm not a home owner...yet. But I've been to many our NCKA bros houses and I see the SAME thing....."man-toys stashed from floor to ceiling"  :smt005 It's almost like walking into Big-Five Sporting Goods...but stinkier  :smt011

I'm jealous :smt002
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: PISCEAN on April 03, 2007, 03:47:13 PM
excellent idea. I'm going to do this under my porch. I already have the obligatory "boathouse" sign.
And Mooch, I believe the correct term is "man cave" :smt003
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: mooch on April 03, 2007, 03:55:58 PM
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I believe the correct term is "man cave"


Negative....."man cave" is for the guys (like myself) that don't have a garage...therefore, the kitchen and the living room become the "said" garage  :smt009  :smt003
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: ganoderma on April 03, 2007, 06:15:57 PM
That’s funny  :smt044 we must drink the same beer because that’s the same system I use. And believe it or not I can get my wife’s car in the garage to, nice job guys.

Pat R 

I stored my kayak that way in my previous house. I used long enough straps that they would rest on the floor to load up the boat. Then they zipped up to the ceiling like yours. I was tempted to lower the boat right onto my car roof, but I moved back here before trying it. My current garage isn't tall enough for that. Now, time for some liquid inspiration ...
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: Malibu_Two on August 10, 2007, 01:39:29 PM
Hmm...this was my first idea, but i don't think I'll have clearance above the garage door. I'm gonna go check right now.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: & on September 11, 2007, 12:13:22 AM
How does this compare to this guy's setup.  The adventure appears to be suspended along the eyelets among three ratcheting ropes. 

It's listed on ebay as Item No. 140156723896
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: ChuckE on September 11, 2007, 06:58:13 PM
How does this compare to this guy's setup.  The adventure appears to be suspended along the eyelets among three ratcheting ropes. 

It's listed on ebay as Item No. 140156723896
It looks clean, but doubt that any kayak manufacturer would recommend hanging a kayak by it's eyelets.  The straps support the weight better.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: pdub on October 12, 2007, 12:25:26 PM
Nice system!!
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: ZeeHokkaido on October 12, 2007, 01:56:50 PM
How does this compare to this guy's setup.  The adventure appears to be suspended along the eyelets among three ratcheting ropes. 

It's listed on ebay as Item No. 140156723896
It looks clean, but doubt that any kayak manufacturer would recommend hanging a kayak by it's eyelets.  The straps support the weight better.

Gotta agree w/ ChuckE on that. Although the eyelet would probably break first and if it fell it could get ugly.

One good thing to point out about yaks post though is that the kayak isn't above the garage door, it's hanging underneath it. For those people who don't have a really tall garage like mine you can let it hang under as long as it's to one side that you don't always use. My neighbor set up a system like that for his canoe and it's nice. I'll be doing that for my garage this weekend.

Z
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: amphibian on October 29, 2007, 08:18:45 AM
I just used this setup to hang my two kayaks. I used the 12' straps so I wouldn't have to lift the kayaks very high. Both my kayaks are heavy and long so the longer straps help.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: Jeffrm20 on November 30, 2010, 01:54:22 PM
Bump for a good idea  :smt006
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: dilbeck on November 30, 2010, 03:31:44 PM
Wow, this thread is 3 years old?  It feels like it was posted just last week.

Someday I hope to have a garage and be able to hang my kayaks from the ceiling.  Right now they are hung on the wall in slings.

Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: snapperhead on January 27, 2011, 09:38:25 AM
Here is my set-up. I have a few yaks, but it does have dual purpose.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: snapperhead on January 27, 2011, 09:44:35 AM
I should have taken better pics, but I think you can see it. I the back ground is my PVC rod holder. It holds 30 rod n reels and has been one of the best things ever; as far as keeping rods safe and out of the way.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: Fish 'n Brew on January 27, 2011, 10:12:36 AM
I use a very similar setup but I have the ratcheting devices at one end of the straps and just ratchet the yak off of the roof racks on my Outback.  Door clearance looked like it was going to be a problem but it clears the door by about 1/16".  I have to loosen the bow strap before entering the garage or the back of the yak will hit the door.  I have a safety flag mount that sticks up about 1/2" above the highest point of the deck of the yak and it will only clear the door with the bow strap loosened.  If theres a place to rinse the yak after fishing, I always take advantage of it so I can move the yak from car to garage without lifting a thing. 
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: bwodun on January 27, 2011, 04:16:07 PM
nice setup snapperhead, love the pvc rod racks, oh and the quiver of rod and reels filling it, cameron
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: J.P on February 15, 2011, 07:56:22 PM
awesome stuffs :smt001
Thanks
Jp
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: kkenn on November 15, 2015, 07:30:40 PM
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but wanted to get the forums take on this....

Would there be any value to wrapping a pool noodle around the strap to provide more padding and surface area where the strap cradles the yak?
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: billyk on November 16, 2015, 07:34:53 PM
Me and momma put this together today with out a fight.that is big around this house.she is a scrapper but we gave each other a big high five and a hug and kiss after 24 years of marriage that is big too.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: Bungle on November 17, 2015, 07:12:22 AM
Would there be any value to wrapping a pool noodle around the strap to provide more padding and surface area where the strap cradles the yak?

My initial guess would be that any value added would be minimal, if any.  Would definitely require more clearance between bottom of yak and garage door.

I'd stick with straps alone if I ever went this route.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: bpowa on November 17, 2015, 07:23:08 AM
I should have taken better pics, but I think you can see it. I the back ground is my PVC rod holder. It holds 30 rod n reels and has been one of the best things ever; as far as keeping rods safe and out of the way.

Fawk.. I have 4 rods and reels. I though I had too many.  And its a pain to store them.. Leaned against a corner of a room.  Sucks because I noticed minor scratches on 2 fairly new reels.  Great Idea. This means I need to buy at lease 8 more sets to make it worth building this rack. :smt003
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: kkenn on November 17, 2015, 09:32:14 AM
Would there be any value to wrapping a pool noodle around the strap to provide more padding and surface area where the strap cradles the yak?

My initial guess would be that any value added would be minimal, if any.  Would definitely require more clearance between bottom of yak and garage door.

I'd stick with straps alone if I ever went this route.

Thanks for your feedback.  Yeah, I did take the extra clearance into account... my garage happens to have a very high clearance, so that wouldn't be an issue. 

I might be rethinking this method all together.. just brought home a used Trident 13 that I bought from Ravensblack... getting it up into the straps seems like a 2 person operation!
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: phishphood on November 17, 2015, 01:33:10 PM
Would there be any value to wrapping a pool noodle around the strap to provide more padding and surface area where the strap cradles the yak?

My initial guess would be that any value added would be minimal, if any.  Would definitely require more clearance between bottom of yak and garage door.

I'd stick with straps alone if I ever went this route.

Thanks for your feedback.  Yeah, I did take the extra clearance into account... my garage happens to have a very high clearance, so that wouldn't be an issue. 

I might be rethinking this method all together.. just brought home a used Trident 13 that I bought from Ravensblack... getting it up into the straps seems like a 2 person operation!

Just get longer straps so it'll reach the garage floor, and ratchet with both hands simultaneously.
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: FishingForTheCure on November 17, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
With ratchet straps, you have to pull the tail end till it's close to snug before you start ratcheting, so this can be a little tough single handed.  Harken makes a system that I used in an apartment in Fresno to hold small boats/kayaks up to the rafters and was 1 handed pulling all the straps at one.  Downside is it was $$$  :smt012
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: kkenn on November 17, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
Yeah, for now I have 2 10' CAM Straps.  I guess I have to go longer, or get stronger!
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: FishingForTheCure on November 17, 2015, 01:55:24 PM
Check out 'Rope Ratchet' on Amazon or Home Depot carries them as well.  I use a bunch of these for various tasks & they work great 1-handed.

http://www.amazon.com/ProGrip-404400-Rope-Lock-Down/dp/B00138OMJI/ref=sr_1_4?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1447797271&sr=8-4&keywords=rope+ratchet
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: phishphood on November 17, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
Maybe dual rig them then? 1 set of strap to get from ground to high-enough. 2nd set to get above the door, unhooking the 1st set as you go?
Title: Re: Kayak Garage Storage How-To
Post by: FishingForTheCure on November 17, 2015, 02:00:37 PM
Here's a like to the Harken system.  This one goes to 90# but they make larger ones for the heavier boats/yaks

http://www.hoister.com/productdetail.aspx?id=6154&taxid=645