Hobie copy?

Genrully, shur, but sometimes no.  See this product recall where, against Bell Helmet spex, the asian mfr substituted an ITW Nexus buckle with a lesser quality plastic component.

Interesting recall, but it doesn't list the type of plastic the material is made of.  Could be a completely different grade of plastic.

Plastic ain't just plastic, not all HDLP da same, considering HDLP not single grade substance, i.e., even within "high density" the densities can verry.

I disagree HDLP is a subgrade of PE and and in so a more specific grade PE.  Given this grade has a range, but if it falls outside of the range it is no longer HDLP it could be LDPE, HDPE, HDXLPE, or something else.  If the manufacture is using something other than HDLP that's completely different argument and would be good reason to reject the boat.

  OTW is no thyme to discover your nu bote is water soluble = no chow fun at all.

haha maybe I'll add a splash test to the next boat I buy.

so is it a kayak or submarine?

Both! You get 2 for 1/10th the price of 1...

More fodder for the Acronym thread?  ROI  BMW X5   CEO  RTIC  Rc HDLP it could be LDPE, HDPE, HDXLPE High Density Linear Polyethylene thank you
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As long as I won't be needing HELP when using this Chinese HDLP, I'll buy it I when available in the USA!

Anybody remember that scary Walmart kayak from a couple of years ago?

There's so much more to plastic than being HDPE or HDLPE or LDPE.  For example, if and how the UV inhibitor is introduced to the matrix, then there's the shell thickness, which is something I've noticed about Hobies -- they have the thickest/most rigid hulls I've seen yet -- versus the cheapies, which could be easily deformed by hand pressure.  These qualities are not possible to check until the submarine is in hand....

Anybody remember that scary Walmart kayak from a couple of years ago?

There's so much more to plastic than being HDPE or HDLPE or LDPE.  For example, if and how the UV inhibitor is introduced to the matrix, then there's the shell thickness, which is something I've noticed about Hobies -- they have the thickest/most rigid hulls I've seen yet -- versus the cheapies, which could be easily deformed by hand pressure.  These qualities are not possible to check until the submarine is in hand....

Agreed. Not worth the risk buying unseen.

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Looks like they turned an old Bic kayak into a Hobie or visa versa.
The wheel skeg and handle from the Bic, the pedal from Hobie.
Not sure which company should feel more violated.

And hobie hulls never developed cracks at the yakgina.

i need this helmet stat!



 

I forgot the brand but a read about a test used to test an import boat from the USA to Japan they required x amout of weight dropped into a boat from said height it's been a long time so my details are scetchy
In any case there are ways to test

I forgot the brand but a read about a test used to test an import boat from the USA to Japan they required x amout of weight dropped into a boat from said height it's been a long time so my details are scetchy
In any case there are ways to test

Here's one way:

I forgot the brand but a read about a test used to test an import boat from the USA to Japan they required x amout of weight dropped into a boat from said height it's been a long time so my details are scetchy
In any case there are ways to test

Here's one way:

Well shit, I think I found my new career path.

Hey Dannarchy, with respect to using chinese boats to go in the water where you might die if the product failed....nearly all the inflatable sport boats (zodiac, west marine, solstice, aquos, Seago, Avon, Mercury, Walker, Aqua Dutch, Sea Eagle, many new brand names) are made in China now.....they can afford labor to do hand lay ups.

None of those are knockoffs with little to no quality control. I guess the part where I said "Sure there are a lot of quality products coming out of China" was missed.

I cant wait to see all of you on the water in your brand new U-Boat next season.

On the PLUS side, the U-boat might offer the fisherperson the great opportunity to skip the FF by simply seeing the fishies from under water!   

On the PLUS side, the U-boat might offer the fisherperson the great opportunity to skip the FF by simply seeing the fishies from under water!   

"On the water" or "under the water", that is the question...