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Kayak Fishing Zone => Safety First => Topic started by: & on October 11, 2015, 04:17:30 PM

Title: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: & on October 11, 2015, 04:17:30 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFumUdCSgOQ

Glad my open water swim season is done!  Ho lee phook!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: masterandahound on October 11, 2015, 04:33:45 PM
 :jawdrop
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: KPD on October 11, 2015, 04:38:37 PM
Wow! It is both awesome and horrifying that we share the ocean with a fish like that. I'm glad someone is keeping the pinniped population in balance.

A video of the same thing happening off bodega head was posted here just a few days ago. In the background you could see a reef break I've surfed...
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: & on October 11, 2015, 04:59:51 PM
Dislike how the vid is labeled an attack. I think the shark just thought it was brunch lol. Other than that, wow. Incredible. I bet the guards back in the day taunted the inmates by baiting ol whitey lol
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Malibu_Two on October 11, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Wow, a GWS in the bay!
My main problem with the video, though, is the vertical frame. Hold your phone sideways!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: masterandahound on October 11, 2015, 05:12:35 PM
Wow, a GWS in the bay!
My main problem with the video, though, is the vertical frame. Hold your phone sideways!
THANK YOU !!! Landscape, folks. Landscape !
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: krusty on October 11, 2015, 08:35:22 PM
Lost_Anchovy and I trolled past quite a few swimmers between Fort Mason and Aquatic Park this morning.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: nixster on October 11, 2015, 08:54:26 PM
Wow! :jawdrop Makes sense though, with all the sea lions living on the docks . Just a matter of time before the landlord came to collect back rent.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: & on October 11, 2015, 09:14:34 PM
Lost_Anchovy and I trolled past quite a few swimmers between Fort Mason and Aquatic Park this morning.

When seals get chomped in Aquatic Park, then ima quit swimming altogether. Usually its the rabid seals biting swimmers lol
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: FisHunter on October 12, 2015, 08:54:01 AM
Ho Lee Shit!  right in the bay!!

The YEAR OF THE GWS!!   :smt009
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: MontanaN8V on October 12, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Pretty neat, but, nobody had a rod out? What is wrong with our kids today........  :smt011
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Lost_Anchovy on October 12, 2015, 02:15:45 PM
We saw a whole bunch of swimmers in the bay on Sunday. I asked a few if they heard of the GWS at the Rock and they said..."SO??"  Braver than me.  :smt003
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: piski on October 12, 2015, 02:26:12 PM
Amazing . . .  and . . . slightly disturbing...  :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: FisHunter on October 12, 2015, 02:30:52 PM
SO?!?!......so let me please hop onto your nice kayak, NOW!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Duckguy on October 12, 2015, 03:15:17 PM
Pretty neat, but, nobody had a rod out? What is wrong with our kids today........  :smt011
Anybody got advice on how to live-bait rig a sea lion?
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: agoodhi on October 12, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
ALERT, landlord will now starting collecting rent while fishing ARW  :smt107
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: ppickerell on October 12, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
It's Obama's fault.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Baitman on October 12, 2015, 08:06:26 PM
It's Obama's fault.
   Nah,,,   Carry over from the Bush era.     :smt006
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: MontanaN8V on October 13, 2015, 08:44:10 AM
It's Obama's fault.
   Nah,,,   Carry over from the Bush era.     :smt006

Kennedy thing...
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Squidder K on October 13, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
Now the mystery of what happened to those escaped convicts who were never found is solved!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: FishingAddict on October 13, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
I am getting a shark shield first chance. Saving up right now.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: krusty on October 14, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
Another video.

http://kron4.com/2015/10/13/new-slow-motion-video-shows-shark-spotted-at-alcatraz-island-preying-on-seal/ (http://kron4.com/2015/10/13/new-slow-motion-video-shows-shark-spotted-at-alcatraz-island-preying-on-seal/)
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: borntoscout on October 14, 2015, 08:17:56 AM
attack on sea lion or seal that preceded tourist video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNeCo0_NkFo
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Weimarian on October 14, 2015, 09:07:34 AM
That shark must be a vacationing Aussie! See that Launch! Kayak would be flipped no problem.... :smt119 :smt103 :smt101 :smt120 :shark
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: FisHunter on October 14, 2015, 09:35:38 AM
......said it was only a lil'10ft'r = = YIKKES!!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: eelkram on October 14, 2015, 09:41:41 AM
Someone needs to remind that shark that it's too small (10ft) to be eating seals.  It should wait until it's at least 12 to 14ft, like the researchers say.   :smt003    I think the 15ft estimate was more likely to be true.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: & on October 14, 2015, 10:01:21 AM
Salmon shark.  Clearly. 
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: masterandahound on October 14, 2015, 01:45:09 PM
Wow, that was just ... wow.  :smt009
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: bmb on October 14, 2015, 01:50:09 PM
10 footer my ***.  that thing is at least 12.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Sin Coast on October 14, 2015, 01:52:09 PM
10 footer my ***.  that thing is at least 12.
It's hard to tell how long it is when the mouth is open...!  :smt044
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: b.shadee on October 14, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
Some years ago, my young daughter asked me if sharks live in the bay. I replied, oh yes very much so, but mostly just sleepy sand sharks etc. She asked, what about GWS's? I replied, no one sees them, but I know deep down they come into the bay. She asked where? I said Alcatraz probably!

I've always considered the waters of that area to be more like the ocean than the bay. This is my confirmation, and to all who called me crazy for believing this, I told you so.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: FisHunter on October 14, 2015, 02:38:57 PM
i do agree, but they have said that this is the first documented and seen......i wonder when one will make its way into the carquinez straight, following seals that follow salmon. I am sure the ocean salt water is making its way VERY FAR into the bay waters. With no/less freshwater coming from the rivers, the bay is probably 80% ocean right now.
 
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Eric B on October 15, 2015, 08:44:22 AM
I thought it was documented a long time ago that gws come into the bay, with the tagging studies.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Sin Coast on October 15, 2015, 09:07:09 AM
http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_13705470
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: FisHunter on October 15, 2015, 09:18:43 AM
I thought it was documented a long time ago that gws come into the bay, with the tagging studies.
yes you are correct,,,,but it is the first documented attack in the bay.

im sure my native forefathers used to witness this long ago, but they did not have a written language.  :smt003
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: & on October 15, 2015, 09:51:30 AM
http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_13705470

From the article: 

"We tend to think of white sharks as animals that wander oceans aimlessly," said Block. "What we're learning is how selective a predator they are. The go up to 4,000 miles in a trip and come back to within half a mile of where they left."

suggesting that anyone within a half mile of a reported shark sighting or predatory event has an increased chance (however small) of witnessing a repeat event.  For all yous that insist on fishing da Bean
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Bird on October 15, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
I thought it was documented a long time ago that gws come into the bay, with the tagging studies.
yes you are correct,,,,but it is the first documented attack in the bay.

im sure my native forefathers used to witness this long ago, but they did not have a written language.  :smt003

There is at least one earlier record of a fatal shark attack in the Bay from 1926.  Also, an 18-year old swimmer was fatally attacked while swimming off Baker Beach just outside the Gate in 1958/9.  His girlfriend swam out and pulled him to shore.

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49636.msg551856#msg551856

Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Str8FishiN on October 15, 2015, 11:53:42 AM
I love it when the landlords feed on furbags!  I dislike furbags more than I do GWS...
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: mako1 on October 15, 2015, 12:05:03 PM
I love it when the landlords feed on furbags!  I dislike furbags more than I do GWS...
This!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: Sin Coast on October 15, 2015, 01:24:11 PM
(https://cbssanfran.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/great-white-shark.jpg?w=640&h=360&crop=1)
Every time I watch that video of the GWS launching on a seal @ Alcatraz.


I feel like...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7fCQlUhj0
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: piski on October 15, 2015, 04:09:36 PM
There is at least one earlier record of a fatal shark attack in the Bay from 1926.  Also, an 18-year old swimmer was fatally attacked while swimming off Baker Beach just outside the Gate in 1958/9.  His girlfriend swam out and pulled him to shore.

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49636.msg551856#msg551856

That's outside the Gate - doesn't count!
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: & on October 15, 2015, 04:13:17 PM
yo Pisk,

all those years of yakguiding bay swims, what were some of the sentiments you encountered re: whitey - didn't know, didn't care, doubt they're around, etc.?
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: bmb on October 15, 2015, 04:14:38 PM
yo Pisk,

all those years of yakguiding bay swims, what were some of the sentiments you encountered re: whitey - didn't know, didn't care, doubt they're around, etc.?
He was the one in the kayak.  it was the other idiots who were swimming in the water.
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: piski on October 15, 2015, 04:25:47 PM
yo Pisk,

all those years of yakguiding bay swims, what were some of the sentiments you encountered re: whitey - didn't know, didn't care, doubt they're around, etc.?

Most seem to take it in stride but seems the general feeling was that the bay is safe - I don't think most people thought the landlord collected in the bay. I'd guess that a few people will think twice after seeing this but most open water swimmers are a little cray, anyway...right?

In reality, I doubt there's much danger with group swims - whitey seems more enticed by the lone morsel. Wanna do another crossing?  :smt002  :smt003
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: krusty on October 15, 2015, 05:43:10 PM
yo Pisk,

all those years of yakguiding bay swims, what were some of the sentiments you encountered re: whitey - didn't know, didn't care, doubt they're around, etc.?

Most seem to take it in stride but seems the general feeling was that the bay is safe - I don't think most people thought the landlord collected in the bay. I'd guess that a few people will think twice after seeing this but most open water swimmers are a little cray, anyway...right?

In reality, I doubt there's much danger with group swims - whitey seems more enticed by the lone morsel. Wanna do another crossing?  :smt002  :smt003

Just make sure you are not the slowest swimmer in the group. :smt002
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: masterandahound on October 15, 2015, 06:36:46 PM
There is at least one earlier record of a fatal shark attack in the Bay from 1926.  Also, an 18-year old swimmer was fatally attacked while swimming off Baker Beach just outside the Gate in 1958/9.  His girlfriend swam out and pulled him to shore.

http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=49636.msg551856#msg551856

That's outside the Gate - doesn't count!
Tell the swimmer that.  :smt009
Title: Re: Landlord taking rent off Alcatraz!!
Post by: piski on October 16, 2015, 12:45:11 PM
SO, anyone see this yet? The actual attack was caught on vid - just f'ing incredible.  :smt103

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/New-video-of-great-white-shark-in-jumping-feeding-6570752.php