NorCal Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing Zone => General Fishing Tips => Topic started by: HazardousCliff on March 06, 2018, 06:10:29 PM
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I'm looking for a good all-around rod to use in the bay and ocean that isn't too expensive. I know there isn't a one size fits all rod, but maybe there's something close? The Ugly Stik Tigers series look promising but wanted to ask the guys who've been doing this for a while.
Type of fishing I plan to do...trolling/drifting for halibut/salmon, jigging for lings/rockfish.
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Ugly stick is probably what your looking for just pick the size your wanting based on what your fishing for. Most of my rods were ugly sticks for the longest time, they last and dont die even had one fly off the peir because i was an idiot and no problems with them at all.
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I've been using the Ugly Stick for years. It's a great rod, especially the price.
I have been eyeing this one but it is pricey, looks like it has nice action though. Maybe some day.
https://www.tackledirect.com/shimano-tlc70hbbl-tallus-blue-water-conventional-rod.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlr-TvZ_Z2QIVEKlpCh2HpAM4EAQYASABEgK4K_D_BwE
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On the cheap side of things, the Daiwa FT rods are hard to beat: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J6IGQJ0 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J6IGQJ0)
They work well for jigging and pulling big lings out of the rocks.
For salmon, especially if you are fishing braid, I like a long, limber rod. Like 10 feet, and nice and noodly.
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Uglystik Tiger is good bet. Just pick whatever power you want
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Ugly sticks. None of my fishing rods and reels have taken a beating until I got into kayak fishing. From dealing with the salt water and banging them around, also the possibility of losing them overboard. Cant go wrong the the Ugly Stick Tiger Lite! I fish with 3 different kinds depending on species.
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Ugly sticks. None of my fishing rods and reels have taken a beating until I got into kayak fishing. From dealing with the salt water and banging them around, also the possibility of losing them overboard. Cant go wrong the the Ugly Stick Tiger Lite! I fish with 3 different kinds depending on species.
+8 (that is the number of Ugly Stik I have right now)
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Thanks guys! Seems the Ugly Stik is the rod of choice for many yakkers.
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I use Ugly Stik Tiger Conventional. I have a couple different ones depending on what you're fishing for.
If you buy rod and Gear Guard through BassPro you can return them within 2 years and get brand new replacements, no questions asked.
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I've used Ugly Stiks for years - they work. :smt001
- 38 pound salmon
- 35 pound halibut
- 27 pound lingcod
- 80 pound thresher
- 15 pound steelhead
Almost every one of those on barbless hooks and 20 pound leader or less - good rod is a big part of it.
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Lots of good info in this thread, and in the other threads referenced within it:
http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=62207.msg697785#msg697785 (http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=62207.msg697785#msg697785)
Ugly Sticks are great. 7' is a good length to get around the bow of a typical kayak.
7' Ugly Stick is my all around favorite go to yak stick. It's not so long that one end is in the water when getting fish off or working on the line, hooks, etc. I mostly rock fish with mine. :smt003
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I prefer the trevala over the ugly stik.i like the overall feel and action of the trevala.if your near a bass pro,stop in and do a comparison
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I also prefer the weight & feel of a trevala. It starts to wear on your arms if you're working a heavy rod & reel all day while paddling a kayak. I also like the teramar rods. But I started with Ugly Stick Tiger rods (actually started w/shakespeare junk) and they're a good value. Plus they're pretty versatile. I just don't like the feel & action on them anymore.
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I'm looking for a good all-around rod to use in the bay and ocean that isn't too expensive. I know there isn't a one size fits all rod, but maybe there's something close? The Ugly Stik Tigers series look promising but wanted to ask the guys who've been doing this for a while.
Type of fishing I plan to do...trolling/drifting for halibut/salmon, jigging for lings/rockfish.
CalStar 196-7ft- Cast twice as much as an ugly stick but is 10X better rod, for feel, strength craftsmanship. IMHO
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I’ve got the Trevala, they’re more expensive than the Ugly Stick but worth it.
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I've used Ugly Stiks for years - they work. :smt001
- 38 pound salmon
- 35 pound halibut
- 27 pound lingcod
- 80 pound thresher
- 15 pound steelhead
Almost every one of those on barbless hooks and 20 pound leader or less - good rod is a big part of it.
There’s a recommendation not to be taken lightly!
(See what I did there?)
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If you think the 1970's were the pinnacle of American technological innovation, then Ugly Stick might be for you.
Otherwise, If you plan to jig all the time, then go with the trevala. It can also work as a bait dangling rod in a pinch.
I would also consider a swimbait rod like the Dobyns Fury series. I have used these rods for throwing up to 6oz swimbaits and irons and they can also double as a bait rod. I caught a dozen or so halibut on my Dobyn's swimbait rod last year. It's my striper rod, umbrella rig, swimbait, shallow rockfish. I have rolled mine in the shallow surf a few times and they are still functioning AOK.
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I really like the Ugly Stik Striper rod paired with a Penn 209. Plenty of backbone and I'm only out $80 if it sinks
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If you think the 1970's were the pinnacle of American technological innovation, then Ugly Stick might be for you.
I think an entire new thread could be devoted to ""then an ugly stick might be for you" posts.
If your fishing rod is occasionally used as a pool cue.
If you tend to grab the closest hammer or fishing rod to whack down raised nails in loose floorboards.
If you participate in medieval jousting events and want a rod that doubles as a lance.
If you need a rod to go fishing and also support the telephone lines on your block.
If you are in a "bring your own pole" pole vaulting league.
Need a self defense weapon that you can stand in the corner of the room.
For the average person, Ugly Sticks wind up being more expensive in the long run cause you'll wind up replacing it with a higher quality rod.
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:smt044 :smt044 :smt044
So Ugly Stick if you are still in the rolling stage or launching at a new or sketchy surf spot and then Trevala once you're over rolling or going out in a predictable area with no swell, wind or other risky businesses!
Getting the Ugly Stick is not a waste of money, there will always be a time and place for it. My more expensive gear seems more likely to end up in the water or broke but the Ugly Stick is still function and ready as a back up even though it's what I bought first.
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I got this one to start and even though it's kinda worn out and noodllie it still works just not so sensitive anymore.
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trevala if you're jigging all day. ugly stik tiger if you jig, and use to soak bait
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Go with a( Phenix you won't be disappointed
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Ugly Stik Tigers are the perfect rod for halibut fishing-it's very hard to loose a fish with that much flex in the rod-that being said, when recently faced with the same decision, I shelled out the extra for the trevala.
I figure I'll be doing more jigging and prefer the faster action for rocky dwelling species. If I was trolling for halibut and salmon more than 50% of the time, I would have gone with the Stik.
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I like the trevala ML for just about everything. A tiger stick works well for it's price point, but the trevala just feels so nice in my hand. And much lighter than the Tiger.
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Gonna have to agree with the Trevala guys. If you're fishing all day, this is the rod you're going to want to use. The 7ft ML will handle all of what you mentioned. I've caught rockfish, lingcod, halibut, and salmon on that rod.
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If you think the 1970's were the pinnacle of American technological innovation, then Ugly Stick might be for you.
So, you’re saying that the 1970s were not the pinnacle of technological innovation? That’s news to me...