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Title: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Schills206 on November 18, 2018, 06:23:34 PM
Damn, last couple of weeks the crab have been eluding us both inside and outside the jetty.  Anyone having luck out there?
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on November 18, 2018, 06:46:42 PM
Damn, last couple of weeks the crab have been eluding us both inside and outside the jetty.  Anyone having luck out there?
Shucks, gonna giverago tomorrow... :smt006
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on November 18, 2018, 07:21:50 PM
Yes... very good luck . Over nite that Bshhh!
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: scottymeboy on November 18, 2018, 07:53:55 PM
Dropped 3 pots sat afternoon and picked them up sun around 1 and only had 1 dungie to show for it ,it was a 7 incher so that was nice,
not even a red or stone crab that was respectable??? Thats alot of work for 1 friggin crab...So the rumor of Doran is slow is true!
Talked to other people and seems no one had limits.
Also today  some dirtbag asshole ripped off one of my pots and the crab in it ??? So beware, 🤬🤬🤬

But I had an Awsome dinner, Crab, garlic butter ,french bread
and Red wine !!

Yum...
Scotty

PS
The new outback worked great!
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: CptSloppywood on November 18, 2018, 07:55:53 PM
Nice boat Scotty :smt007
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on November 18, 2018, 09:03:45 PM
Nice brah, sorry bout the pot.  Glad you ate well... :smt006
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: E Kayaker on November 18, 2018, 09:08:40 PM
It’s slow over at HMB also. I worked 5 ring traps for about 6 hours for 8 crabs. There wasn't enough action to even eat through one chicken drumstick.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on November 18, 2018, 09:15:42 PM
Used herring from last years spawn, over night crabs, stir fry dinner brah...
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: fishguts on November 18, 2018, 10:46:05 PM
They're out in deeper water.  I camped there last week and got nothing but rocks and shorts on the inside and just outside the jetty wall.  So I hopped on my buddy's boat and we did better in about 70fow.  Bagged 20 keepers for 4 of us. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Dogwood on November 19, 2018, 06:02:29 PM
Sorry to hear that someone stole one of you traps. Hope you do better next time crabbing.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Fish on November 23, 2018, 09:12:36 AM
Dropped 3 pots sat afternoon and picked them up sun around 1 and only had 1 dungie to show for it ,it was a 7 incher so that was nice,
not even a red or stone crab that was respectable??? Thats alot of work for 1 friggin crab...
So the rumor of Doran is slow is true!
Talked to other people and seems no one had limits.
Also today  some dirtbag asshole ripped off one of my pots and the crab in it ??? So beware, 🤬🤬🤬

But I had an Awsome dinner, Crab, garlic butter ,french bread
and Red wine !!

Yum...
Scotty

PS
The new outback worked great!
   I see the kayak, it looks great buddy.  Sorry about loosing a pot.  Dirt bags suck. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: bioman on November 23, 2018, 12:19:42 PM
So no one has suggested your crab pot might come back to you?  As I understand it you are required to attach identification to your trap now, so if a well intentioned person finds it, they know where to return it... P.S. is identification required on rings too?
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: simplycook on November 23, 2018, 02:07:52 PM
So no one has suggested your crab pot might come back to you?  As I understand it you are required to attach identification to your trap now, so if a well intentioned person finds it, they know where to return it... P.S. is identification required on rings too?

Yes, all floats need ID on them. Wouldn't be a bad idea to put an ID tag directly on traps and rings in case the rope gets cut. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: simplycook on November 23, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
Looks like I need to head back there and coax the dungies to come out.  Haven't been back in over a week, didn't limit but 5 dungies in 3 hrs was good enough for me.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on November 23, 2018, 03:07:08 PM
Wait awhile... I dropped 4 pots overnite... for zilch the storm drove them deeper.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on November 23, 2018, 04:29:38 PM
Wait awhile... I dropped 4 pots overnite... for zilch the storm drove them deeper.
Dang...I had high hopes...a boat guy I met today has his pots at 250
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on November 23, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
Wait awhile... I dropped 4 pots overnite... for zilch the storm drove them deeper.
Dang...I had high hopes...a boat guy I met today has his pots at 250
not gonna bring 250’ ft of rope...on the kayak. I’ll just wait... lol
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: simplycook on November 23, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
I'll find them this week in less than 50' of water.   Then I'll call you guys over for crab dinner!
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Tr16 on November 24, 2018, 09:35:08 AM
Dropped 4 pots overnight for 1 clicker male and one undersized female.  Pretty bummed as I dropped 4 traps and only 2 were there this morning.  All traps were Danielson with the same floats/weight so it’s hard to believe 2 walked with the swells....
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: MotherLoad on November 24, 2018, 02:45:56 PM
Bummer about the traps. How common is it to have gear soaking overnight get ripped off? I tried today between 11-2 with a single hoop trap and twenty minute soaks. One clicker Dungee, one keeper red, one keeper rock. Moved trap around looking for best location. West of jetty produced rock and red in 40 fow. 20 fow right in front of the beach got the dungeness
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: simplycook on November 24, 2018, 02:54:35 PM
Dropped 4 pots overnight for 1 clicker male and one undersized female.  Pretty bummed as I dropped 4 traps and only 2 were there this morning.  All traps were Danielson with the same floats/weight so it’s hard to believe 2 walked with the swells....

The tides were and are really big this week and next.  It's possible the traps walked and disappeared if you didn't have enough line or weight.  Poaching and stealing is still likely.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Tr16 on November 24, 2018, 06:26:46 PM
Dropped 4 pots overnight for 1 clicker male and one undersized female.  Pretty bummed as I dropped 4 traps and only 2 were there this morning.  All traps were Danielson with the same floats/weight so it’s hard to believe 2 walked with the swells....

The tides were and are really big this week and next.  It's possible the traps walked and disappeared if you didn't have enough line or weight.  Poaching and stealing is still likely.

Totally possible they walked too.   I just put some new floats on to replace my pool noodle floats because the damn seagulls love to peck them.  May have been a combo of big swells/tide/ and new floats.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on November 24, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
Dropped 4 pots overnight for 1 clicker male and one undersized female.  Pretty bummed as I dropped 4 traps and only 2 were there this morning.  All traps were Danielson with the same floats/weight so it’s hard to believe 2 walked with the swells....

The tides were and are really big this week and next.  It's possible the traps walked and disappeared if you didn't have enough line or weight.  Poaching and stealing is still likely.

Totally possible they walked too.   I just put some new floats on to replace my pool noodle floats because the damn seagulls love to peck them.  May have been a combo of big swells/tide/ and new floats.
No rebar or weights?
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: ScottV on November 30, 2018, 07:56:46 AM
The crabs are waiting for Crabfest in the end of January. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Ebayfisher on November 30, 2018, 08:55:33 PM
I found it slow today.  Crabbed Doran from 10:30 - 2:00 all by my lonesome.  Although, there were a number of pots out. Ended up with 2 take home Rocks. I was expecting the wind to be from the NW but instead it was from the SW.  Nothing too bad but it was consistently windy past the wind shadow of the jetty.  The swell was manageable but some big rollers would come through on occasion.  On my last two outings I've noticed the swell and wind come down after 12P.  I find this to be the opposite of most sites on the north coast.  Used three Promar Ambush traps.  A good day; nice drive up, improved my crabbing technique little by little & trap handling, got some exercise, and had a nice drive back. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: MooMoo Outdoors on December 01, 2018, 10:08:53 PM
Thanks for the report Mike. Hopefully crabbing gets better.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on December 01, 2018, 11:10:54 PM
I found it slow today.  Crabbed Doran from 10:30 - 2:00 all by my lonesome.  Although, there were a number of pots out. Ended up with 2 take home Rocks. I was expecting the wind to be from the NW but instead it was from the SW.  Nothing too bad but it was consistently windy past the wind shadow of the jetty.  The swell was manageable but some big rollers would come through on occasion.  On my last two outings I've noticed the swell and wind come down after 12P.  I find this to be the opposite of most sites on the north coast.  Used three Promar Ambush traps.  A good day; nice drive up, improved my crabbing technique little by little & trap handling, got some exercise, and had a nice drive back.
Thanks for that brahhdah Mike...what is your bait? :smt006
Title: Moral and legal decision
Post by: DiveForFun on December 02, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
. My question is this. I am on the water right now and went to drop a pot but when I got to where I wanted to go I saw about a foot under the water a rope floating that has clearly been cut and not clean like it was hit by a prop. I don’t want to be labeled a poacher but also am not fond of junk lining our ocean floors. What is the moral and legal thing to do?
Title: Re: Moral and legal decision
Post by: KPD on December 02, 2018, 11:59:08 AM
. My question is this. I am on the water right now and went to drop a pot but when I got to where I wanted to go I saw about a foot under the water a rope floating that has clearly been cut and not clean like it was hit by a prop. I don’t want to be labeled a poacher but also am not fond of junk lining our ocean floors. What is the moral and legal thing to do?

I'm curious to hear what others say. My understanding is that you can't legally disturb gear that isn't yours even if it is derelict. You could attach a float to the cut end of the rope and report it to the harbormaster.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Ebayfisher on December 02, 2018, 12:02:22 PM
I found it slow today.  Crabbed Doran from 10:30 - 2:00 all by my lonesome.  Although, there were a number of pots out. Ended up with 2 take home Rocks. I was expecting the wind to be from the NW but instead it was from the SW.  Nothing too bad but it was consistently windy past the wind shadow of the jetty.  The swell was manageable but some big rollers would come through on occasion.  On my last two outings I've noticed the swell and wind come down after 12P.  I find this to be the opposite of most sites on the north coast.  Used three Promar Ambush traps.  A good day; nice drive up, improved my crabbing technique little by little & trap handling, got some exercise, and had a nice drive back.
Thanks for that brahhdah Mike...what is your bait? :smt006
Chicken drum sticks and squid.  The first pull was promising...1 almost legal dungie and several smalls.  Then, after that, it was an occasional rock crab.  Ya think the bait made the difference?  I could have tried harder and used, in addition to the bait cages, the "chum" jars I got from Dicks. The other day when I got the 1/2 limit I used squid, chicken, and anchovies.  May have to go back to that concoction.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Ebayfisher on December 02, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
Thanks for the report Mike. Hopefully crabbing gets better.
Yeah, me too Moo. Conditions weren't great and I really didn't expect them to be.  There was a 3 knot ebb for most of the morning. I didn't know the current could be that strong there. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on December 02, 2018, 01:42:17 PM
I found it slow today.  Crabbed Doran from 10:30 - 2:00 all by my lonesome.  Although, there were a number of pots out. Ended up with 2 take home Rocks. I was expecting the wind to be from the NW but instead it was from the SW.  Nothing too bad but it was consistently windy past the wind shadow of the jetty.  The swell was manageable but some big rollers would come through on occasion.  On my last two outings I've noticed the swell and wind come down after 12P.  I find this to be the opposite of most sites on the north coast.  Used three Promar Ambush traps.  A good day; nice drive up, improved my crabbing technique little by little & trap handling, got some exercise, and had a nice drive back.
Thanks for that brahhdah Mike...what is your bait? :smt006
Chicken drum sticks and squid.  The first pull was promising...1 almost legal dungie and several smalls.  Then, after that, it was an occasional rock crab.  Ya think the bait made the difference?  I could have tried harder and used, in addition to the bait cages, the "chum" jars I got from Dicks. The other day when I got the 1/2 limit I used squid, chicken, and anchovies.  May have to go back to that concoction.
I am not sure but the pros put whole ling and rockfish carcass on the wire and have something fresh smelly milking out of the cans...I tend to want to pack that pot with a mess of edibles on the wire, whole heads attached with carcass and a mess of oily type fish that they cannot access in the mesh bag.  Chicken is standard bait so unless it is brined in massive smelly juice I would not resort to it unless I had to.  I like squid also but put chopped anchovies in the same bucket.  Others I am sure have secret recipes or not so secret ideas.  :smt006
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on December 02, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
Herring and chicken Mash FTW
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on December 02, 2018, 03:40:36 PM
SlackedTide knows...soak that puppy overnight :smt006
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Ebayfisher on December 02, 2018, 05:08:28 PM
soak that puppy overnight :smt006
Soak puppies? Sick! I’m gonna call PETA on you. :smt003

Nah, I never soak overnight. Heck, I can barely wait 20 minutes to check on my hoops. Although, it would probably be a lot more efficient.

Slacktide, can you elaborate on your chicken mash. I thought of using my partners smoothie blender to grind up my baits buy she probably wouldn’t dig that too much. :smt010

Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on December 02, 2018, 05:22:04 PM
soak that puppy overnight :smt006
Soak puppies? Sick! I’m gonna call PETA on you. :smt003

Nah, I never soak overnight. Heck, I can barely wait 20 minutes to check on my hoops. Although, it would probably be a lot more efficient.

Slacktide, can you elaborate on your chicken mash. I thought of using my partners smoothie blender to grind up my baits buy she probably wouldn’t dig that too much. :smt010
Yeah, my world doesn't allow for overnight puppy soakage...Bory lives 3 minutes from Doran, I'm an hour and 3 minutes from Doran...
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on December 02, 2018, 05:22:38 PM
A cleaver , cutting board, spawn herring from 2018, chicken breast from foodmax... chop chop chop loaded into pvc bait container, do not over pack...I do this at Doran picnic table cause I don’t have to clean at the house , drop pots at 3pm, pick up st 7-8am...them poachers are rampant
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: hightide on December 02, 2018, 05:47:04 PM
For some that know me I usually just carpet bomb Doran with 14 traps for quick limits on Dungees n Rocks. Family has to be fed. I never soak overnight or stay more than 3 hour.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Ebayfisher on December 02, 2018, 06:22:09 PM
A cleaver , cutting board, spawn herring from 2018, chicken breast from foodmax... chop chop chop loaded into pvc bait container, do not over pack...I do this at Doran picnic table cause I don’t have to clean at the house , drop pots at 3pm, pick up st 7-8am...them poachers are rampant
Thanks for the info. Ah, missed out on the sex herring. Maybe this coming year - I have my cast net ready to go. 
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: kayakjack on December 02, 2018, 06:49:07 PM
brother Schills,  crabbin at doran can really suck and disappoint for a variety of reasons. Seek out and find the spots north of there and get into the 50-60ft depth where the thieving thins out and the crab thicken up. Surf launch skills are helpful.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Ebayfisher on December 02, 2018, 07:29:57 PM
brother Schills,  crabbin at doran can really suck and disappoint for a variety of reasons. Seek out and find the spots north of there and get into the 50-60ft depth where the thieving thins out and the crab thicken up. Surf launch skills are helpful.
Bodega dunes beach?
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on December 02, 2018, 07:42:06 PM
brother Schills,  crabbin at doran can really suck and disappoint for a variety of reasons. Seek out and find the spots north of there and get into the 50-60ft depth where the thieving thins out and the crab thicken up. Surf launch skills are helpful.
Bodega dunes beach?
I bet there loads of jumbos off Limantour?...no guarantees :smt006
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on December 02, 2018, 07:46:19 PM
Launch south of goat rock there's crab...
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: Eddie on December 02, 2018, 07:48:39 PM
Launch south of goat rock there's crab...
Uhhhh...are there any sharks there?
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: SlackedTide on December 02, 2018, 07:53:05 PM
Launch south of goat rock there's crab...
Uhhhh...are there any sharks there?
I don't know lol but we dropped pots between goat rock and arch rock and there's plenty. The surf they're is kinda sketchy with pots... and it gets kinda windy. I'm content with dropping 4 pots overnite at bodega it gets the job done.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: moon on December 03, 2018, 06:15:02 AM
I've been three times this season and I think it's slowed down. Opening day limited out, second trip with a buddy got 9, and another limit the Sunday after Thanksgiving. These days were long. I've found the early soak and the late afternoon soak to produce the most. The middle of the day seemed to produce the least amount of dungies for me.
Used to use 4 pots, now I've been using 6 and sometimes a hoop net to test the waters. When my buddy crabbed with me we used 8 pots and crabbed from 8 to 4pm and came up with 9 as well as a bunch of Rocks.
I see a lot of guys, and gals, come out in the middle of the day and crab a few hours and get may be one or two. I think they just missed the morning and late craw.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: kayakjack on December 03, 2018, 08:31:07 PM
the whole area north of bodega and south of Jenner does well
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: fishingsowong on December 03, 2018, 08:55:11 PM
Awesome report. Thanks
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: moon on December 04, 2018, 05:27:58 AM
the whole area north of bodega and south of Jenner does well

That's a long paddle from Doran or a rough put in. Would love to try dropping pots there.
Title: Re: Doran Crabbin' - Slow or just me?
Post by: kayakjack on December 05, 2018, 04:58:46 PM
the whole area north of bodega and south of Jenner does well

That's a long paddle from Doran or a rough put in. Would love to try dropping pots there.

Yeah, its way to far to paddle from doran IMO. Surf launch on nice days is the way to go. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.