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I have used an anchor many times but I only use it for diving so I just hang it off the side of the kayak. I want to put a trolley system on my outback for fishing. Are all the commercial systems pretty much the same? What do trolley users recommend?
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As a QRAS user, I recommend a Quick Release Anchor System instead of a trolley. It's safer in moving water, plus who wants to be anchored from the side in strong current? :smt006
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As a QRAS user, I recommend a Quick Release Anchor System instead of a trolley. It's safer in moving water, plus who wants to be anchored from the side in strong current? :smt006

My trolley system is a quick release system. I don't understand why all you guys say to only use a QRAS and not a trolley. They can be one in the same.

I use the Yak Attack trolley on all my kayaks. Solid and work well.
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As a QRAS user, I recommend a Quick Release Anchor System instead of a trolley. It's safer in moving water, plus who wants to be anchored from the side in strong current? :smt006

My trolley system is a quick release system. I don't understand why all you guys say to only use a QRAS and not a trolley. They can be one in the same.

I use the Yak Attack trolley on all my kayaks. Solid and work well.
Because I’ve pulled my anchor in while on fast moving water. The kayak turns sideways and there is a lot of pressure on the kayak. It just doesn’t seem like it’s a good idea to anchor from the side. Then there was the time I got snagged by a tree on the American River and as soon as my kayak turned sideways it rolled. I suppose it couldn’t do any harm on a lake.
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I've only used my trolley for a sea anchor, and for that, it works well.  I'll describe it to you in case you think it would be useful for a bottom anchor.   But I use it almost all of the time as my bow line/ pull up the ramp harness.   
    It's pretty simple, no holes to drill, no permanent attachments to the kayak.   I made a loop of 3/8" nylon rope long enough to reach from the lifting handle on the bow to the  webbing handle on the  gunwale mid-kayak.   I attached a snap shackle to the bow handle rope loop  and ran the rope through that and back to another snap shackle  that clips to the side handle, and knotted the two ends together, so I have a continuous loop for a trolley.  About where the ends are knotted, I tied in another shackle that stays at that point in the loop, and allows me to clip it around the anchor rode then trolley it forward to the bow, so the anchor pulls from the bow, and the bitter end of the anchor rode is still at the side of the kayak, where I tie a slip knot to the side handle that I can release in a hurry with the rode slipping out of the shackle tied into the trolley, that shackle now being at the bow.  The shackle secured to the bow lifting handle serves as the pulley.   When I want to use the loop at a bow line, I just unclip the shackle at the side handle, and if I have a long steep incline to pull the yak up, I double the doubled line by clipping the "side" shackle to the bow shackle.  The doubled bow line is just the right length to go over my shoulder so I can put some muscle into pulling the kayak up the incline without worrying about it getting away from me.  I just leave the trolley clipped to the bow handle and side handle when I'm car-topping.   Just in case I ever need a longer bow line for a tow, I have a longer throw line tucked behind my seat.   
    I suppose you could try pulling the bitter end of the rode while it is trolleyed forward in an effort to pull up the anchor, but I've never tried it.


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As a QRAS user, I recommend a Quick Release Anchor System instead of a trolley. It's safer in moving water, plus who wants to be anchored from the side in strong current? :smt006

My trolley system is a quick release system. I don't understand why all you guys say to only use a QRAS and not a trolley. They can be one in the same.

I use the Yak Attack trolley on all my kayaks. Solid and work well.
Because I’ve pulled my anchor in while on fast moving water. The kayak turns sideways and there is a lot of pressure on the kayak. It just doesn’t seem like it’s a good idea to anchor from the side. Then there was the time I got snagged by a tree on the American River and as soon as my kayak turned sideways it rolled. I suppose it couldn’t do any harm on a lake.

I have never anchored from the side with my system in moving water the trolley lets me anchor from the front or the back. My anchor does NOT attach to the trolley. It just runs thought the ring and is attached at my side. If shit goes wrong i just release the line and it slides right out. I anchor in the strongest of Delta currents quite often in the Sherman Island area and have never had any issues. I still pull my anchor in in fast moving water and leave the ring at the front or rear until the anchor is off of the bottom. Then I move the trolley forward to retrieve the final amount of line. 10 years of doing this with zero issues. Trolley systems work just fine if you know what you are doing.
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I’m sure you know what you’re doing. I’ve gotten the impression that trolley’s are sold as a way to change the position of your kayak while at anchor. Also I don’t see them called QRATS so I also get the impression that they’re not quick release systems.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2018, 06:13:46 AM by traildad »
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I’m sure you know what you’re doing. I’ve gotten the impression that trolley’s are sold as a way to change the position of your kayak while at anchor. Also I don’t see them called QRATS so I also get the impression that they’re not quick release systems.

Trolleys are in deed a way to change the position of your anchor. Also, the term QRAS is a term made up by I think Tote here on NCKA and is not really used anywhere else other than here. They are a quick release system if you use it correctly like I have for over 10 years now. Don't speak bad of things you really don't know that much about.

In my opinion Yak Attack Lever Lock Trolley is the best one out there.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2018, 10:08:47 AM by RacinRob »
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I use Rob's setup as well and have been very happy with it. Just use the ring on the trolley as a way to position your anchor line and have a quick release located near the cockpit in case you need to chase a fish or get yourself out of trouble. My trolley was homemade and it utilizes the existing eye pad locations on the deck (one near the rudder in the back and one near my left foot). I used this system last winter for sturgeon and it worked really well.
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I’m sure you know what you’re doing. I’ve gotten the impression that trolley’s are sold as a way to change the position of your kayak while at anchor. Also I don’t see them called QRATS so I also get the impression that they’re not quick release systems.

Trolleys are in deed a way to change the position of your anchor. Also, the term QRAS is a term made up by I think Tote here on NCKA and is not really used anywhere else other than here. They are a quick release system if you use it correctly like I have for over 10 years now. Don't speak bad of things you really don't know that much about.

In my opinion Yak Attack Lever Lock Trolley is the best one out there.
If you reread my original comment you will see I spoke well of QRAS, not bad of a trolley.
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Yak attack trolly system $30 bucks well spent and 6 bucks for a S biner quick release. Make sure to rig the trolly as far back as possible on your boat .it allows your anchore to go straight behind the kayak in current alowing your keel and nose to stay strait making the safest possible. Tie a 2 to 3 foot lead to a crab float and a circle metal ring $3 bucks at hardwear store the ring connects to your quick release . and buy a real boat anchore 7lbs to start is a relistic anchore to fish most (fishable) currents and last tip down size the diameter of rope ( makes less drag)
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