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Topic: SF Bay Kayakers, can you please help me find the right Yak for me?  (Read 4413 times)

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Shoot, just realized I forgot an important point in the list:

Here is the 'revised' list:

1. Fishing platform that allows me to do fishing on the Bay, Lakes and Rivers
2. Ability to move it with feet powered drive (propeller, mirage, etc.)
3. I would like to be able to comfortable stand up
4. Be able to transport it with my Honda Civic (I have seen Youtube videos where people put PA14 on small cars)
5. Take my gf with me every now and then (she ways around 120pounds)
6. Do a bit of sailing with it (which is more of a 'get to the fishing spot quicker' kind of thing)


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You could always attend the PIF event this weekend, buy a raffle ticket and try and win the Santa Cruz Kayak G2, sounds like it might meet your needs. A true sailing kayak would be the Hobie AI.

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Shoot, just realized I forgot an important point in the list:

Here is the 'revised' list:

1. Fishing platform that allows me to do fishing on the Bay, Lakes and Rivers
2. Ability to move it with feet powered drive (propeller, mirage, etc.)
3. I would like to be able to comfortable stand up
4. Be able to transport it with my Honda Civic (I have seen Youtube videos where people put PA14 on small cars)
5. Take my gf with me every now and then (she ways around 120pounds)
6. Do a bit of sailing with it (which is more of a 'get to the fishing spot quicker' kind of thing)

Enough. Hobie AI.
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Hm, the AI looks like sailing is the main priority, which it is not for me. Fishing, standing and pedaling is.

So the Hobie would be the right fit if I went on a smaller lake and rivers?

Thanks.


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If sailing isn't a big priority then I would suggest you just drop it from your wishlist altogether, because it's a pretty substantial item and it's steering peoples advice in the wrong direction.

If you want something for lake fishing and puttering around in the bay, any of the Hobie kayaks should be more than fine. If you will only occasionally be bringing a 2nd person, then you're likely better off sticking to 2 single kayaks instead of a tandem. The 2nd one can be significantly cheaper and lighter than your primary fishing one.

As for transporting it, just get a set of crossbars for your car (I also have a smaller car and I got some used Yakima crossbars for something like $60 on Craigslist). You can add special kayak attachments, but I just cover the bars in pool noodles and strap on the kayak. Having 2 kayaks will make this a bit trickier so you'd have to check the load limit on your cars roof and take that into consideration.


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PA 14 all the way... Get your girl a beater ;)


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Hm, the AI looks like sailing is the main priority, which it is not for me. Fishing, standing and pedaling is.

So the Hobie would be the right fit if I went on a smaller lake and rivers?

Thanks.

"That" kayak has not made yet and never will.  :smt005
Here is why.

Sailing - You need a sail and outriggers for it to work. Going any direction.
Standing - Wide kayak.
Pedaling - Hobie , now many kayak maker are following.
2 people - Tadem, 2 single kayak, or AI.


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My mind rotates to the Outback right now. It is capable of going to all kinds of waters and its lighter and easier to maneuver and to transport.

My heart goes more to the PA14, so that I have the ability to get my gf with me if she feels like it. Cons: Costs more, more difficult to transport (but not impossible), and a little less suited for Inshore and rivers of what I heard.

Damn it... those first world problems...  :smt013


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Hopefully you are a big guy. Loading PA14 up is such a pain.
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Hopefully you are a big guy. Loading PA14 up is such a pain.

I am. ;)   6'3'', 200 pounds (30 years old), in decent shape. Just not sure yet if my Honda Civic 2001 SE can carry that much weight on the roof... still researching on that.


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You could always attend the PIF event this weekend, buy a raffle ticket and try and win the Santa Cruz Kayak G2, sounds like it might meet your needs. A true sailing kayak would be the Hobie AI.

+1  Someone on the forum recently sold a SC Raptor G2, already rigged for sailing; however, installing that would be a job for someone who really knows what they are doing.The G2 is stable enough for standing, and you can use the Hobie pedal drive with it. A thing to consider: How is your balance (surfing, skateboarding, BMX riding)? If you want to stand up, and the answer was "not great", consider the G2 or a catamaran-type rig; if it's all good, then that opens up the options some more.
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Thanks for all the replies.

Was on a trip for the last 2 weeks. Now I am back and I want to increase the thinking process for the Yak.

I have a 2001 Honda Civic, how can I find out if a PA14 will fit on the top of the car from a weight perspective?


When I compare the PA 14 vs the Outback I see the following main points:

* Price: Outback.
** I would get the Outback fully rigged for the same price as the PA14

* Transportation: Outback
** Advantage in terms of transportation (car)

* Standing ability: PA14
** I am wondering if I would get similar stability if I added the SIDEKICKS to the Outback

* Getting into the water: Draw
** The little beack near my apartment is super calm and sheltered. Super easy to get the Yak into the water

* Ocean fishing: ?
** I am not sure on this yet. I hear that the Outback is easier to get through the surf, which does not really affect me (see point above). The stability on the water looks like a plus point for the PA. The Outback is easier to peddle on the water and makes it easier to go longer distances.
** Anybody with reference points here for the Bay Area?

* Storage: PA14
** More storage and I would also be able to bring my girlfriend along with an added camping chair on the back


What would you choose if you lived in Sausalito and would fish 85% ocean and 15% lakes and rivers?

Thanks again!


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What would you choose if you lived in Sausalito and would fish 85% ocean and 15% lakes and rivers?

Translation = 100% salt.  you really gonna do 50 trips in 2 years, 7.5 of which is sweetwater?  No no and no!  w ur proximity to the bay, you ain't ever doing 15% fresh.  and if you did fish that much, uz a freak and you'd be getting 2 yax.

Just buy an dang outback already.  :smt044  then flip* it after year 1 or 2.  holds decent resale.

*flip as in resell it, not physically capsize LOL


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Time for you and the GF to do some physical demos.

IMO a big part of your selection process should be an honest assessment of off the water stuff like storage, loading, and moving between parking areas and the actual launch. Solo, unless you always plan on having help which is again IMO unrealistic.

And do you care how beat up the car may get, I lopped off my side mirror the first time I loaded my first yak. Don't discount this one it's happened allot.

Happy shopping :smt001
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  Come out to Santa Cruz and demo paddle a G2.    with exception of the tandem wish.   Everything else would fit your description.    Light weight,  only 68 lbs, means you can load, unload easily.    It takes the Hobie Mirage drive, or you can switch adapter pods  and use it as a paddle yak.   Easily the most stable kayak out there.     I've sailed both   boats and sailboards for years.  I've fitted and experimented with several types of sailing systems to this kayak, even in a 20 knot crosswind there's no feel of tippyness in the design.   
 
   
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