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General => Kayak Sailing => Topic started by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 11:09:39 AM

Title: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
Yesterday, the pulley and the fin rod both broke. Not sure if it was related or both coincidental. Anyway, the pin broke at the base, and I'm not sure how to get it out of the drive. The piece in the fin slides right out. Any thoughts or advice? Pic is below...
Thanks!
Andrew
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 11:10:37 AM
Do I need to replace the entire mechanism that holds the rod? If so, what os that exactly? This is a 2014 model.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: bmb on September 19, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
its threaded.  so vice grip it and twist, if you can.  otherwise you might have to use some sort of screw extractor.  i don't think there is any locktite on it though.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: bmb on September 19, 2017, 11:24:53 AM
if you can get it out, you will only need a new threaded mast.  i believe yours is the v2 model.  like $20-25.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: krusty on September 19, 2017, 11:25:01 AM
That is where my mirage drive broke too, except the mast broke inside the sprocket. So I had to replace both parts. You could try to remove the broken mast piece with vice grips, but chances are you will have to replace the sprocket also.

The v2 turbo mast is $23, and the sprocket is $24.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: krusty on September 19, 2017, 11:25:50 AM
its threaded.  so vice grip it and twist, if you can.  otherwise you might have to use some sort of screw extractor.  i don't think there is any locktite on it though.

It is locktited.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: bmb on September 19, 2017, 11:26:54 AM
its threaded.  so vice grip it and twist, if you can.  otherwise you might have to use some sort of screw extractor.  i don't think there is any locktite on it though.

It is locktited.
well that stinks.  blue locktite at least I'm sure. I remember installing mine back in like 2012 and remember the blue.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: krusty on September 19, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Looks like you need to replace both masts.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: cam3087 on September 19, 2017, 11:42:05 AM
Get a hacksaw and cut a groove into the mast. Then use a flathead to unscrew.


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Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: krusty on September 19, 2017, 11:43:39 AM
Get a hacksaw and cut a groove into the mast. Then use a flathead to unscrew.


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Good idea!
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: FishingAddict on September 19, 2017, 12:05:48 PM
Wow, How did it happen? 

I had a rod bend during surf re-entry. I had the drive attached at off position. A wave pushed my Revo sideways and  dragged one of the fins along the beach and bent the rod.  I replaced the rod, easy fix.  Now I always take the MD out when dealing with the surf.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 12:14:41 PM
Get a hacksaw and cut a groove into the mast. Then use a flathead to unscrew.


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Good idea!

Ditto. I'll try that!
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 12:17:25 PM
Wow, How did it happen? 

I had a rod bend during surf re-entry. I had the drive attached at off position. A wave pushed my Revo sideways and  dragged one of the fins along the beach and bent the rod.  I replaced the rod, easy fix.  Now I always take the MD out when dealing with the surf.

Not sure how it happened. The pulley mechanism was crapping out, and then the rod broke. It was while fishing, which is weird, so there wasn't some sudden pressure or impact that would cause that kind of torque. We've bottomed out in the surf a few times and those rods have taken some abuse, so I figure it's just wear and tear.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Mojo Jojo on September 19, 2017, 12:19:35 PM
If you have a pen torch and some skill a little heat will help loosen the lock tight A LITTLE don't melt the thing!
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: chopper on September 19, 2017, 12:21:24 PM
a dremel will also cut a groove pretty quick without getting into the surrounding plastic too much. I'd plan on replacing both masts - that other one is pretty bent.

Cheers,
Brad
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: krusty on September 19, 2017, 12:21:57 PM
Wow, How did it happen? 

I had a rod bend during surf re-entry. I had the drive attached at off position. A wave pushed my Revo sideways and  dragged one of the fins along the beach and bent the rod.  I replaced the rod, easy fix.  Now I always take the MD out when dealing with the surf.

Not sure how it happened. The pulley mechanism was crapping out, and then the rod broke. It was while fishing, which is weird, so there wasn't some sudden pressure or impact that would cause that kind of torque. We've bottomed out in the surf a few times and those rods have taken some abuse, so I figure it's just wear and tear.

Check the teeth on the sprocket for wear. Mine had a few worn teeth, so I just replaced it instead of trying to remove the broken mast.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 02:25:49 PM
Well unscrewing it isn't working. That locktite is making it impossible...so I have to order new parts. ACK doesn't have much for the V2 drives. They have to special order it which will take 7-10 days. Too long.

Can anyone recommend a local place that sells V2 replacement sprockets and idler pulleys?

Thanks,
Andrew
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Scurvy on September 19, 2017, 02:32:32 PM
Well unscrewing it isn't working. That locktite is making it impossible...so I have to order new parts. ACK doesn't have much for the V2 drives. They have to special order it which will take 7-10 days. Too long.

Can anyone recommend a local place that sells V2 replacement sprockets and idler pulleys?

Thanks,
Andrew

Any of the local Hobie dealers.  They might not have the part, but they can order it and then it's only a 2 day ship from Hobie Central in Oceanside.  (I just got a replacement myself and it came in just 2 days).
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: KPD on September 19, 2017, 02:36:12 PM
Well unscrewing it isn't working. That locktite is making it impossible...so I have to order new parts. ACK doesn't have much for the V2 drives. They have to special order it which will take 7-10 days. Too long.

Can anyone recommend a local place that sells V2 replacement sprockets and idler pulleys?

Thanks,
Andrew

Hey Andrew,

I have a spare rod in my parts drawer. I might be able to get the broken end of the rod out if you can bring it by my place in San Mateo. Mine broke in a similar place last year.

Krishna
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: otobepelagic on September 19, 2017, 02:37:36 PM
I have spare sprockets and masts here in Cotati (Sonoma County) if someone is headed your way.
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Malibu_Two on September 19, 2017, 02:46:38 PM
Thanks guys, but I just called Wind Toys and they have all the parts so I might just go up there for a one-shop-stop, plus I should buy backups for the other drive. Appreciate the help, though!
-Andrew
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: NowhereMan on September 19, 2017, 06:21:46 PM
... I'd plan on replacing both masts - that other one is pretty bent.

+1
Title: Re: Mirage Drive repair help
Post by: Wildrooster on September 21, 2017, 01:51:24 AM
What a great opportunity to up grade to a 180