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Title: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Paddleboy84 on February 09, 2017, 06:28:43 PM
First off it's not a kayak. As one who has always wanted to put the kayak back in kayak fishing, this goes against my core beliefs. With that said the market has spoken as shown, by the wild success of the Hobie Pro Angler models, that they want bigger badder more stable pedal boats. This is Natives answer for that. Happy to see someone stepping up to give Hobie some competition in this category. What do you guys think?

Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: NowhereMan on February 09, 2017, 06:30:59 PM
It does look like a beast. What are its vital stats?
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Paddleboy84 on February 09, 2017, 07:00:02 PM
It does look like a beast. What are its vital stats?

13.5' and 42" wide. Weight is going to be 120+ pounds. They have not released a final weight but it's going to be heavy.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: bmb on February 09, 2017, 07:02:57 PM
13.5 feet long, 42 inches wide, something like 150lbs.  Final weight will be available soon after they get into production. They're expecting them to start shipping in March.  This is really a truck bed/trailer boat.  There's also some top secret scuttlebutt that pedal, paddle, and trolling motor options are not going to be the only propulsion option on this yakrotomolded boat....

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Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Ariel Sea on February 09, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
Beast Mode! Looking forward to demoing that kayak.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: wormguy on February 09, 2017, 07:22:18 PM
What's the financial hit?
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: mdoka_matt on February 09, 2017, 07:38:02 PM
Cold fusion?
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Grim Reefer on February 09, 2017, 08:05:56 PM
There's also some top secret scuttlebutt that pedal, paddle, and trolling motor options are not going to be the only propulsion option on this yak....

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Geez... what else is left?
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: bmb on February 09, 2017, 10:07:06 PM
What's the financial hit?
Bare hull only
$2489
With propel Drive
$3249
Add a trolling motor mount
$90

Comes stock with groove track everywhere, tons of internal storage, and rod storage tubes.  comfortable seat.  Supposedly very maneuverable for its size.  Not gonna be the fastest boat on the water with its propel driven option, but add a 40-50lb thrust trolling motor you essentially got yourself a rotomolded bass boat.

http://nativewatercraft.com/2017/01/titan-propel-13-5-sneak-peek/
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: bmb on February 09, 2017, 10:08:10 PM
There's also some top secret scuttlebutt that pedal, paddle, and trolling motor options are not going to be the only propulsion option on this yak....

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Geez... what else is left?
Secret is out.  It will be propelled by a series of labradors pulling it from the front while a stick is dangled in front of them.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Tote on February 09, 2017, 11:09:08 PM
42'' wide????????
Just thinking about it I think I pulled a groin muscle.
I love fishing with my feet hanging over on each side of the kayak.
Either this is not a kayak or the very definition of the word kayak needs to be revisited.
If not, I guess these 'kayaks' could hit the market soon too.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: bmb on February 09, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
Either this is not a kayak or the very definition of the word kayak needs to be revisited.

First off it's not a kayak.

Native doesn't call it a kayak either. I'd say its a rotomolded bass boat.  And judging from the reception so far online, this is just another method for folks to get out and fish, and they're loving it.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: BamaChris on February 10, 2017, 07:10:36 AM
They intended this to be a bass kayak from everyone I spoke with back home. At that weight, plus width , trying to get it out past breakers would be a nightmare. Freshwater lake however, this would be a monster for sight casting and bass tourneys. Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Paddleboy84 on February 10, 2017, 10:25:20 AM
The way I look at it someone was going to come after he Hobie PA market after the amount of success that boat had. It's definitely not going to be the boat for everyone, but I know a lot of the bass fishing guys are pretty fired up to play with it.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: vwool on February 10, 2017, 11:02:22 AM
The way I look at it someone was going to come after he Hobie PA market after the amount of success that boat had. It's definitely not going to be the boat for everyone, but I know a lot of the bass fishing guys are pretty fired up to play with it.

So true, there is a boat/layak for everyone. As long as it gets people on the water.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Dannarchy on February 10, 2017, 03:20:52 PM
Either this is not a kayak or the very definition of the word kayak needs to be revisited.

First off it's not a kayak.

Native doesn't call it a kayak either. I'd say its a rotomolded bass boat.  And judging from the reception so far online, this is just another method for folks to get out and fish, and they're loving it.

The video I watched of the Native Watercraft guys at a show said "It's not a kayak, we are not a kayak company; It's a watercraft".
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: VK on February 10, 2017, 03:31:13 PM
Last time I saw something that big on the Salt ,it was on our Starboard side during an UNREP  :smt002
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: cajun on February 10, 2017, 04:11:42 PM
I'm all about the performance kayaks but there is a market for larger platforms. If it gets more people on the water its all good. My concern is proper safety on these barges. That will be a beast to flip back over in worst case situation and harder to get on a kayak with those high sides.
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: NowhereMan on February 10, 2017, 04:58:17 PM
I'd say its a rotomolded bass boat.

Where does the 120 hp outboard go?
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: RBark on February 10, 2017, 05:16:26 PM
The way I look at it someone was going to come after he Hobie PA market after the amount of success that boat had. It's definitely not going to be the boat for everyone, but I know a lot of the bass fishing guys are pretty fired up to play with it.

So true, there is a boat/layak for everyone. As long as it gets people on the water.

Is a layak a kayak that gets you laid?
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: bmb on February 10, 2017, 05:36:10 PM
I'd say its a rotomolded bass boat.

Where does the 120 hp outboard go?
120hp is probably overkill....but...
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Paddleboy84 on February 11, 2017, 03:27:21 PM
They just added this video to their Facebook page. Looks nimble for such a massive craft.

https://www.facebook.com/nativewatercraft/videos/10155093936730967/ (https://www.facebook.com/nativewatercraft/videos/10155093936730967/)
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Mienboy on February 12, 2017, 08:27:45 AM
I hate to be in that thing and have to cover ground,having owned a 12,14 pa your legs are gonna get a workout
Title: Re: Native Titan bigger than a PA?!
Post by: Wildrooster on February 12, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
heavy ya but you guys know they are going to do there research proper ratios of prop to pedals etc
 as well as it moves out in the video it looks like a nice stand up kayak and as well as it Handles 
getting past the surf should not be that bad
most of what i have read is pretty much everything i herd about my ascend128 which i feel is a pretty good kayak
not a rocket but as standups go very user friendly
i suspect the new release by native will be well received
by most kayaks