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Author Topic: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed  (Read 3377 times)

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surfingmarmot

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oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« on: August 29, 2009, 08:36:26 pm »
Yes it was over 100 degrees at Del Valle today and when I put my cart on the aft section of my Trident-15 between the scupper holes it bowed in and now has cooled and won't pop out. I am seriously pissed--this NEVER happened with my Prowler 15--EVER. That is either a serious design flaw or I have a defective product or I didn't realize how damn weak the kayak is. I am seriously pissed off. Instead of fishing at the Forebay tomorrow AM, I'll be working it with a heat gun tomorrow and trying to pry it back out.  :smt011 :smt011 :smt011

« Last Edit: August 29, 2009, 08:38:53 pm by Surfing Marmot »

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2009, 09:35:17 pm »
That's not good!  Hope you can pop it back to original shape!
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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2009, 10:06:33 pm »
I had some minor dents before from a road trip in the heat, nothing that drastic though.  Just curious, why the heat gun instead of laying it out in the sun w/ a black trash bag over the spot?

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2009, 10:30:02 pm »

That sucks.

Kind of off the wall, but can some duct tape make the thing air-tight enough to maybe build a few pounds of air pressure with a compressor? Nothing huge, like 5-10#, just enough to help while you heat up the hull?
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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2009, 10:45:10 pm »
Lay it out in the sun for a day. if that doesn't work fill the entire hull with water. The weight of the water will usually 'pop' it back into place.

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2009, 10:48:45 pm »
Why don't you see if you can get it replaced... By contacting Ocean first.  Try a heat lamp that works great if not.  Good luck and really sorry to see that.
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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 07:00:13 am »
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Just curious, why the heat gun instead of laying it out in the sun w/ a black trash bag over the spot?

Trying to do it fast--the Forebay was rocking with 0-2 mph all afternoon and evening Saturday. I so want to go Sunday afternoon if I can.

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Lay it out in the sun for a day. if that doesn't work fill the entire hull with water. The weight of the water will usually 'pop' it back into place.
Thank Tote--I'll try that if I cannot pop it back with heat and laying it on my kayak saw horse with a little prying it dow inside.
am sure I can get it back. I'll lay out in the sun and add a little help with the heat gun if needed.

I'll even take it to the Forebay like this if I have to and work on it next week.

I thought the Trident hull felt thinner than the Prowler--but I had no idea just how much weaker it must be as well--it is a bigger boat and they kept it to 60 pounds while my prowler is 65--that's how--thinner hull. I'll make sure the cart is over the scupper holes from now on. May have to widen the rails to distribute the load better. I still think it shouldn't be so weak as to buckle under it's own weight on a cart.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 07:03:19 am by Surfing Marmot »

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 07:09:19 am »
I have seen this sad story to many times. Putting a hot yak on a cart between the scuppers will do that to ANY yak.  Especially if you happen to leave it on the cart a while or cinch the straps tightly.  Carts should go under the scuppers.

Tote's suggestions should work.  Othwerwise suspend it upside down in the sun from a suction cup place in the oil can has worked for me as well. 


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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 07:19:18 am »
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I have seen this sad story to many times. Putting a hot yak on a cart between the scuppers will do that to ANY yak.

I think you are right Sean. And the fact that the kayak is lighter doesn't help. It has never happened to me before probably because I never carted a yak a long way in 100 degree heat. The car is one of those Mini-Rollez with balloon wheels --I might see what I can do to spread to force a bit although given the way it dented, any cart would have done it.

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2009, 09:26:33 am »
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I'll even take it to the Forebay like this if I have to and work on it next week.

That's the spirit.  It feels crappy to continue on when the plan seems like it just got ruined, but if you're still able then go do it.   :smt001

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2009, 11:09:34 am »
It sure looked ugly, but 3 hours in the hot sun and using a Thule rack bar as a pry bar rewarded me with a "pop" after 5 minutes of pressing around. Whew. Lesson learned, mischief managed.

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2009, 11:51:26 am »
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It sure looked ugly, but 3 hours in the hot sun and using a Thule rack bar as a pry bar rewarded me with a "pop" after 5 minutes of pressing around. Whew. Lesson learned, mischief managed.

Ahh, happy ending . . . and lesson learned - thanks for sharing so others can prevent this.  :smt004
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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2009, 12:46:19 pm »
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Thanks for sharing so others can prevent this.

That was the whole idea--sharing both the good and bad experiences passes the knowledge around. The dent was beyond my reach but the Thule flat rack bar was the perfect lever. The Forebay is howling at 14 mph right now so it looks like I'll have the day for more pimping and WAF building  :smt012

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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2009, 09:52:02 pm »
don't say Pop, Ahhh, Happy Ending! Couldn't help myself. Gald it worked out.
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Re: oil-canned Trident 15--I am pissed
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 10:46:36 pm »
Another trick I've used on oil-canned boats is to place 4-6 bricks stacked together over the indention and pour on a gallon or so of boiling water. It's worked everytime.
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