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specialty knots.....
« on: July 13, 2008, 01:20:29 am »
dropper loop knot

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Re: specialty knots
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2008, 01:25:18 am »
palomar knot (my personal favorite)



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Re: specialty knots
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2008, 01:31:51 am »
uni knot & uni to uni knot....




double uni knot

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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2008, 01:34:45 am »
Blood knot...



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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2008, 01:39:17 am »
Improved clinch knot....



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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2008, 01:45:20 am »
modified slip knot....



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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2008, 06:57:10 pm »
Mooch, I just saw the video on the Uni Knot to Uni Knot.  How close can you trim the tag ends and keep the knot secure?  Obviously, the closer the better for going through Rod Guides or anything else the knot can get caught on.  This knot seems perfect for attaching Spectra to Monofilament leaders.

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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2008, 08:48:09 pm »
Mooch, I just saw the video on the Uni Knot to Uni Knot.  How close can you trim the tag ends and keep the knot secure?  Obviously, the closer the better for going through Rod Guides or anything else the knot can get caught on.  This knot seems perfect for attaching Spectra to Monofilament leaders.

for this reason the albright is usually used on a thicker mono leader. if the mono leader is thick enough for the protruding tag end to be a problem with a uni to uni, use an albright.

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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 09:20:20 pm »
Fantastic thread.  Not sure how I missed it.  Had I saw this before the MBK tourney, I wouldn't have needed to bug GB2.

Now I'll just sit back and wait for somebody to post how to tie the albright. :smt003

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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 01:53:57 am »
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the knot can get caught on.

In my experience, I have never had a problem using the uni to uni. Sure you feel the knot "tick" the guide but I have never broken off my line because of it. Use the knot system that works for you  :smt002


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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 08:50:14 am »
Fantastic thread.  Not sure how I missed it.  Had I saw this before the MBK tourney, I wouldn't have needed to bug GB2.

Now I'll just sit back and wait for somebody to post how to tie the albright. :smt003

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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 02:24:43 pm »
If ya look at the first utube knot video, and look at the other vids on the bottom, you will see a video for the

albright

Thanks Don, I'll check it out and try tying both the albright and uni to uni to see which I feel more comfortable with.

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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 06:57:24 pm »
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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2008, 09:04:39 am »
I use both knots. uni-to-uni and albright. more about the albright here:

I don't tie albrights on the yak, I generally stick with a uni knot there. and try to tie no knots on the ocean if I can.

An albright is very smooth through the guides, so if you want a casting leader (to absorb the shock and abrasion of casting) or winding thick leader (40 and above) through your guides with braid mainline, they are the best choice.

both my rods have a doubled section of 30lb braid which is tied to a rod length section of mono, which goes to a snap swivel with a slido above it (for threeway use). the leaders I use have a surgeon's knot at the top which goes in the snap swivel. at the bottom of the leader is a duolock snap tied with either a palomar or a uni (can't decide which I like better there). I often tie a dropper loop in the middle of the leader for a teaser.

my mainline should be doubled with a bimini twist, but I cheat and use a surgeons loop. that would hurt me if I was offshore fishing, but here, no penalty.

I used to tie the braid directly to the snap swivel and that works well, but you do get cases of the braid abrading and you should retie that every trip. With the setup I have now I only retie the snap swivel after a trip if the mono is abraded and that happens slowly so that means I am not retying my albrights very often.

the big key with tying a good albright is the tightening stage. you want to work the opposite tags and mains against each other slowly and with increasing force before you finally pull main to main and then trim. when you trim I trim real careful and with an angled trim on the thick leader so it is even smoother. some people put a dab of glue over it to make it smoother and give some abrasion protection to the coils of the smaller mainline. I don't do that cause I never have any suitable glue handy but would if I did.

generally an albright is something you use fishing for bigger fish or casting big weights real far, it is not really required for our provincial form of fishing which is pulling up 2lb rockfish with 40lb gear (okay, you do get a ling or halibut once in while, but the gear handles those easily too) and does not really need any special equipment (a handline would work fine), but it's a good thing to know.

dilbert, you should get yourself a $15 copy of vic dunaway's bait, rigs and tackle as he will explain this all to you with nice pictures. that's what I used to teach myself.


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Re: specialty knots.....
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2008, 10:58:50 am »
I use both knots. uni-to-uni and albright. more about the albright here:

I don't tie albrights on the yak, I generally stick with a uni knot there. and try to tie no knots on the ocean if I can.


my mainline should be doubled with a bimini twist, but I cheat and use a surgeons loop. that would hurt me if I was offshore fishing, but here, no penalty.


John -

In a recent review of knots, the spider hitch performed as well as a bimini for producing a double line. I tie a bimini albright off the water and a bimin-spider hitch or double uni on the water, but I also pre-tie leaders so I rarely tie on the water.

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